From: maedhros@yabbs
To: pixy@yabbs
Subject: re: run for the border
Date: Tue May  3 01:37:00 1994

In message re: run for the border, pixy said:
> they are used bothers me. Without the governmetnt misusing the police,
> personal liberties would be returned, criminals would face the angry mobs,
> and law abiding citizens would not feel helpless towards the criminal

Personal liberties returned?!  What do you think would happen to LA if the
police stopped patroling?  The gangs would all retire and everyone would
go on to leave a peaceful, pastoral existence.  Personal liberties?  Hell,
noone would have the liberty to walk outside without deciding whether it
was worth the risk of being killed.  As far as angry mobs go...I'd rather
put my fate in the hands of the police.  The average human isn't all that
bright and a far sight from rational.  How many innocents do you think
mobs would 'bring' to justice along with the guilty.  The moral majority
with policing authority?  I'd kill myself (and hopefully a lot of them
with the proper chemicals) before I stuck around.  It'd be just like cozy
old Salem.  That's not liberty.

> elements--i know in this state, if you shoot an assailant when your life
> is not in danger(the criminal isn't shooting or stabbing at you or holding
> his weapon in your face) you become a felon. who is the vict? who is the
> criminal?

So if you stop someone who was going to, say, rape a child and then kill
her (worse case scenario for dramatic effect :) it would be illegal to
harm him if he gives up.  Hell, you want mob justice, give it to the
police.  They're the ones who know where the problems are.  Give 'em
fucking automatics and let 'em clean this shit hole up.  Sure, they fake
evidence occasionaly.  Yet, at the same time they're criticised for this,
you advocate sentencing without a trial by a mob.  I don't even know why
the police do what they do.  They don't get paid shit and their job's to
be shot at defending ungrateful people.  Hell, I don't know what drives
them, but if they want more power, they've got my vote.

If you feel like they're trampling your freedom, you're barking up the
wrong tree.  They're upholding the law not creating legislation.  If you
don't like the laws they uphold, go bitch at a Congressman.  Honestly,
it's some of the silliest and most common transference ever perpetrated.

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