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from: Xela@yabbs
date: 1994-02-04 14:36:34
subject: The Mind

From: Xela@yabbs
To: abort@yabbs
Subject: The Mind
Date: Fri Feb  4 14:36:34 1994

Abort has said:
  OK, now what happens in meta-programming is that you actively trying 
to effect these circuits of your brain.  One example is the taking of LSD 
to expand the mind.  This will have effects on the sixth and seventh 
circuits.  Effecting our perception of reality and our dealing with 
sensual input.  The idea of reeing yourself as I continually refer to, is 
that you are meta-programming yourself, to no longer relyt on the control 
mechanisms that we are brought under in society. You are meta-programming 
your circuits into new and original formations.  You are stimulating 
experiences wich will effect you in a maner that will incite feelings 
which are chemical reactions as Xela puts it, that will free ouy.  That 
will make you no longer desirous of relying upon a controlling device such 

as the state, or church.

    So by affecting the levels of chemicals inside your brain, utilizing 
acid or yoga (i.e. controlling oxygen levels reaching the brain, placebo 
effect, etc.), you are giving yourself the illusion you are free.  This 
does not mean that you *are* free.  I can sum it up this way.  I can feel 
free, by reading books about freedom, or applying eastern religious 
crutches to my mind, and it may feel like the real thing, but it isn't.
Freedom is not an atainable goal, regardless of which buttons you push (or 
meta-circuits, whichever metaphor you prefer).
    Programming is still control.

Abort has also said:
But you've been programmed and made to believe that you need a control 
device in your life, that you need to have someone guiding you.  This can 
be the idea of a soveraign bieng such as god, or in the idea of state.  
You are fooled into believeing that you need a guide thru life.  Also you 
are tricked into seeing good and bad as definite.  When they are not, good 

and bad are subjective relations given to various actions and experiences. 

 The idea of good and bad stems from the need for a guide.  Igf it goes 
against this guide you are taught that it is bad etc...

    I have never stated that people need control, nor have I stated that 
people need to guide me.  What I have said is that people guide me 
regardless of whether I "let" them or not.  Programming can be very 
subtle.  My argument all along has been that even without the programming 
of a sovereign, man, a social being, programs others in his interactions 
with others.
    I can smoke dope or pop tabs of acid all day long (which I recommend 
:) ) and alter brain chemistry, but I still have to deal with others.  Or 
does your argument state that only a hermit is free?
    Good and bad are subjective terms which a society deals with on its 
own terms.  Society can exist with or without government by a power 
untiit, but it still creates morals and in that sense it programs the 
citizen.


I'll conclude my argument with the next statement.
-Alex

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