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to: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
from: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
date: 1993-07-10 13:57:28
subject: #18409-GNU-C

#: 18410 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Jul-93  13:57:28
Sb: #18409-GNU-C
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433

I didn't realize that you could redefine make rules...thanks. BTW, the line
isn't "c.r:", it is ".c.r:"... also, if the new rule contains any macros, like
$(CC), you have to define the macros first. Oh well, it works! Thanks. Too bad
that MW didn't document this.

Yes, I have played with FM. Getting real good. I do have a problem with it
though...and that is the choice of keys. (I'm doing this as a public message so
that others can contribute...yours is not the only program with similar
problems, I have a similar problem with EPHEM). On my terminal the left arrow
key is defined as a CTRL-D (this is in the termcap). So, using the arrow keys
works fine. However, FM expects ctrl-d to have its own binding (in EPHEM this
is the exit key...which means I have to reset one machine to get out of the
program). I suggest that programs should check for duplicate keys like this and
then remap things if necessary. With a small command set like FM this shouldn't
be too big a deal. Guess the other solution would be to have a separate file
with the keybindings in it (that's what I ended up doing in Ved, but it is a
lot of work for a small program). I guess the only other solution is to only
use keys which have been explicitly defined in a termcap entry...but that might
leave too many functions undefined. Of course, if I finished off my Kn defs in
my termcap entries for the function keys that would solve the problem too...but
 I've seen very few (none?) complete termcap entries. Heck, a lot of termcap
files are just plain wrong.

Oh, here's another interesting tidbit...one of the arrow keys on my terminal is
defined as a CTRL-W (xon!). Makes for real interesting interactive sessions
when the serial line is set for xon/off handshaking.

Also, the screen updates for FM are now very fast. I assume this is the new
curses library?

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