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date: 2097-06-27 17:19:00
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IN>FF>IN>WE> M ³ WE>Inferno,
IN>FF>IN>WE> M ³ WE>       Torque steer has nothing to do with front or rear
IN>wheel
IN>FF>IN>drive
IN>FF>IN>WE> M ³ WE>seen Roadrunners with hemi's jump a full lane when the gas
IN>ped
IN>FF>IN>got
IN>FF>IN>WE> M ³ WE>mashed, all due to torque steer.  And rear driven cars (my
IN>per
IN>FF>IN>WE> M ³ WE>preference by the way) have their own steering problems...
IN>FF>IN>WE> M ³
IN>FF>IN>WE> M ³ WE>
IN>-==*>Weatherman
IN>FF>IN>WE> M ³
IN>FF>IN>WE> M ³
IN>FF>IN>WE> M ³ With cars that aren't twisting the tires off launch, torque
IN>steer
IN>FF>IN>WE> M ³ usually only eminent on FWD cars.
IN>FF>IN>WE> M ³ ---
IN>FF>IN>WE>Inferno,
IN>FF>IN>WE>       Sorry to burst your bubble again, but this happens at any
IN>speed
IN>FF>IN>WE>happens at 55mph when the pedal is mashed, it happens at 20 when th
IN>p
IN>FF>IN>WE>is floored, and it happens when the car is at a stop and the pedal
IN>FF>IN>WE>tromped on.  Torque itself has nothing to do with the car's initial
IN>FF>IN>WE>velocity, and the degree of torque steer is affect only slightly by
IN>th
IN>FF>IN>WE>gyroscopic nature of moving wheels, and completely unaffected by th
IN>FF>IN>WE>inertia of the forward moving car.
IN>FF>IN>WE>
IN>-==*>Weatherman
IN>FF>IN>WE>---
IN>FF>IN>WE> þ JABBER v1.2 þ Beam me up Scotty.
IN>FF>IN>WE>---
IN>FF>IN>WE>Sent via MailLink, 24-JUN-97, 05:16:00, from:
IN>FF>IN>WE>(HUS)Destination CPU - (607) 737-6901
IN>FF>IN>WE>Elmira, NY
IN>FF>IN>You misinterpreted my reply. Cars that "twist the tires" off launch
IN>FF>IN>meaning cars with 500 lbs of torque or so that twist the rear tires wh
IN>FF>IN>they take off like drag cars. The torque in those vehicles at takeoff
IN>FF>IN>can sometimes cause the car to turn when they take off because of the
IN>FF>IN>tires malforming from the torque. So once again you didn't burst my
IN>FF>IN>bubble, and next time you reply make sure you understand the statement
IN>FF>IN>---
IN>FF>IN>Sent via MailLink, 25-JUN-97, 09:16:38, from:
IN>FF>IN>(WCC)Dreamscape BBS - dsoe.com
IN>FF>IN>Vancouver, BC
IN>FF>I'm not into bursting bubbles, but rwds off a launch tend to go in
IN>FF>certain direction because of the direction of the torque that's being
IN>FF>applied, not the malformation of the tires.  The torque caused direction
IN>FF>change can be overcome by weight dist. and suspension tuning, but the
IN>FF>car will always favor one wheel over another.
IN>FF>---
IN>FF>Sent via MailLink, 26-JUN-97, 00:43:56, from:
IN>FF>(MMN)Metropolis Downtown - (913)663-3333
IN>FF>Many Cities, Midwest
IN>Not if it's a real sports car and has a limited slip differential, which
IN>transfers power between the tires to make sure the car goes straight.
IN>There is no such thing as torque steer on RWD cars, except maybe on some
IN>older rear engine cars. The car(s) you've seen that did this either had
IN>incredible amounts of horsepower or had no posi.
IN>---
IN>Sent via MailLink, 26-JUN-97, 19:27:04, from:
IN>(WCC)Dreamscape BBS - dsoe.com
IN>Vancouver, BC
Nope, I was only referring to posi equiped cars.  I agree there is no
such thing as torque steer on a rwd, but 'tire deflection' as you referr
 to it is incredibly off base.  I explained how and why rwd's like to go
off to one side, and i also explained that the problem can be fixed with
suspension tuning and/or weight dist.  I also agree with you that on
older cars this is more evident, but that is because of the suspension
technology at the time, not so much to torque difference.
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Sent via MailLink, 27-JUN-97, 00:30:42, from:
(MMN)Metropolis Downtown - (913)663-3333
Many Cities, Midwest

                                                                                                      

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