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to: Bob Stout
from: Charles Angelich
date: 2003-11-08 20:02:02
subject: Re: [C] Fido Gateway Sta

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Hello Bob - 

BS> On 8 Nov 2003 Charles.Angelich!1.106.2000.0{at}filegate.net
BS> wrote: 

I would ask how all the other people's names come out correctly
and mine is garbled but since it stops my OLR from flagging
this as a message to me I think I already know the answer. 

>> I had always viewed the C_ECHO as the reward after a bit of
>> a 'test' to see who could wade through all the protocols and
>> disappearing BBS then get a workable offline reader and
>> _use_ it. Seemed to eliminate those who really didn't care
>> and just had nothing better to do than state an opinion
>> about something they knew next to nothing about. I am
>> referring to the 'C' language here in particular. 

BS> Objectively, programming languages, like networking
BS> details, are tools to achieve a goal. Inevitably, some
BS> people are just as interested in the tools as the goal
BS> itself. I split the camp... I enjoy developing the tools
BS> and components, but have little interest in the details of
BS> the networking involved. So, too, with discussions of C
BS> programming. We're all here because we share an interest in
BS> C programming. What's different is that many of those left
BS> in FidoNet also have an interest in tinkering with the
BS> mechanics of networking as well, while many using the
BS> Internet are simply interested in transparent, reliable
BS> communication. 

I think you missed my point. The difficulties involved in
getting access to FIDO was a 'pretest' that thinned the herd. 

>> Now that Janis, Jon, and Bob have managed to make access
>> available to the lowest on the food chain I am teaching my
>> cat to use the function keys to post in the C_ECHO. She may
>> as well have equal access along with the others, she isn't
>> at the very _bottom_ of the food chain (think that's the
>> amoeba?). Do we have a access point for the amoeba yet? If
>> not Janis, Jon, and Bob can probably come up with something. 

BS> Characterizing the Internet community as "the lowest on the
BS> food chain" is patently unfair. 

Well we can guess that most have an opposable thumb and enough
money to at least buy a Lindows machine. Other than that the
waters become murky - very murky. 

BS> There are C programmers using the Internet who are clearly
BS> more talented than both of us together. 

I can't disagree that talented people use the Internet, some of
the best people I know use the Internet. ;-) 

--8<--cut 

>> Congratulations Bob, you've come to the inevitable end of a
>> long journey. Rather than fish for individual 'snippets'
>> just cast a bigger net and scoop up the entire echo. I
>> applaud your innovation, you've grown over the years into an
>> impressive force within cyberspace. 

BS> This isn't about collecting code for SNIPPETS, it's about
BS> extending the life and usefulness of the C_Echo by
BS> expanding its user base to a larger audience. If we can
BS> wind up with as many active participants as during the best
BS> Fido years, then I'll have accomplished my goal. The
BS> collection of SNIPPETS is only a fringe benefit of a robust
BS> online community. 

Correct me if I'm wrong but this sounds like quantity over
quality to me? 

If the arrangement makes Janis, Jon, and Bob happy them I am
happy. 

I will wait and watch as the participants discuss the nuances
of the 'C' language and the lurkers lurk and the Russians
archive and life goes on. 

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