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to: Jeff Shultz
from: Rich Gauszka
date: 2005-12-17 10:04:46
subject: Re: McCain 1 Bush 0

From: "Rich Gauszka" 


"Jeff Shultz"  wrote in message
news:pan.2005.12.17.06.14.23.93846{at}shultzinfosystems.com...
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:18:36 -0500, Rich Gauszka wrote:
>
>>  Bush finally realized he was pretty much alone fighting the anti-torture
>> proposal
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051216/ap_on_go_pr_wh/congress_detainees
>>
>> President Bush embraced Sen. John McCain's proposal to ban cruel, inhuman
>> and degrading treatment of terrorism suspects on Thursday, reversing
>> months of opposition that included White House veto threats.
>>
> Of course, since everything they've done, including the infamous
> waterboarding, has been done to US Servicepeople for years as part of
> their training, little they've done (at least with offical approval) has
> been "cruel, inhuman, and degrading." Well, we can take issue with the
> term degrading, but prison itself is degrading so that's pretty much a non
> sequitor.
>

One still understands that the 'torture' when part of training, while
extremely unpleasant, will end. Those in prison and subjected to similar
'torture' do not have that hope/realization..

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