From: Free Lunch 

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:27:47 -0400, in alt.atheism stumper
 wrote in
:
>Free Lunch wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:38:00 -0400, in alt.atheism
>> stumper  wrote in
>> :
>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>> Free Lunch wrote:
>>>>>> stumper  wrote in
>>>>>>> God is everything there ever was, is, will be,
and some more.
>>>>>>> Do we still need to prove God's existence?
>>>>>> It appears that you have now defined
"God" to mean "universe". What's
>>>>>> the point?
>>>>> And some more.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does the universe love you?
>>>>> Does God love you?
>>>>     A man said to the universe:
>>>>     "Sir I exist!"
>>>>     "However," replied the universe,
>>>>     "The fact has not created in me
>>>>     A sense of obligation."
>>>>         -- Stephen Crane
>>>>
>>>
>>> Too bad.
>>>
>>> God does so by definition.
>>
>> But not by observation.
>
>
>Have you ever seen anyone
>who lives in poverty to take care of others?

Yes.

This has nothing at all to do with any of your claims about gods.

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