From: "Robert Comer" 

It isn't just things like Abu Ghraib that they're outlawing.

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Bob Comer


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
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> We the USA didn't need a new law to make Abu Ghraib illegal under USA law
> and the UCMJ.
>
> Gary
>
> "Adam"  wrote in message
> news:43a29a25$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Mark wrote:
>>
>> > Yea, all this political crap in the middle of a war against beheaders
>> > is
> not
>> > a good thing, not at all.
>>
>> Huh? Then get rid of Bush & co & simply appoint the
pentagon to run your
>> country in time of war. Many other countries have done this however
>> mucho like Cromwell in the UK they often show a reluctance to admit the
>> war is over & thus they should hand back power to the Civies.
>>
>>
>> > <9/11 has faded, freedom for Iraqis is
>> > unimportant -- unfortunately, it's gonna take another significant
>> > attack
>> > here, to give the real Reps enough backbone to quash this kind of
>> > self-defeating McCain/Dem capitulation initiatives>
>> >
>>
>> What crap. Do you think Abu Ghraib etc was a big win for the US? Most
>> polls show that is when the US in Iraq went from broadly popular with
>> the locals to broadly unpopular with the locals.
>>
>> How many nice young US service people have died as a result of that?
>>
>> When people witter on about torture etc possibly "saving
lives" they
>> always forget to mention how noone loves a torturer & thus how many
>> lives have been lost as a result of that torture.
>>
>> Get your dad back as a brusied lump of asphyxiated meat & you're likely
>> to harbour ill will twards those who did it.
>>
>> Come out alive & you & those you can influence will also
bear ill will
>> towards those who did it.
>>
>> Come out alive & be a citizen of a state which has signed up to the CAT
>> & at least you have the hope of seeing justice by means of your gov
>> launching a criminal investigation, international arrest warrants etc.
>> This process itself will then have severe political repercussions
>> between the state harbouring the torturers & that representing the
> torturee.
>>
>> So big wins all round.
>>
>> Unless of course you're a fascist who really believes that behaviouor
>> like this is in some way justified without reaching into the outer
>> limits of possibility ...."imagine if this person was about to detonate
>> a hydrogen bomb suspended by a ballon over NYC" crap that the
right uses
>> to pretend to have a leg to stand on.
>>
>> Real US people have really died as a result of the torture & the
>> knowledge/perception that the US is a torturing state.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
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