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echo: r_catholic
to: CE
from: Grinder
date: 2007-03-25 22:32:00
subject: Re: Roman Catholicism vs. The Bible

From: Grinder 

CE wrote:
> On Mar 25, 12:53 pm, Bible John  wrote:
>
>> Roman Catholicism has many condemning components.
>
> 
>
> The Roman Catholic church's teaching is not only in accordance with
> the Bible but it is the Roman Catholic church that handed down the
> Bible to Christians throughout the centuries.
>
> I won't give you a course on Catholicism in a newsgroup, John, but I
> will say that you've misunderstood Catholic teaching and you would do
> well to take a closer look at it.

He was recently involved in a debate where he not only demonstrated his
commitment to ignorance on this issue, but used it as a weapon.  Here is a
choice quote:

| You know as part of my research in this debate I created | some questions
and phoned 4 random Roman Catholic Churches | in the San Francisco Bay Area
and asked the following | questions below.
|
| 1. How can mankind receive salvation and is Jesus involved? | Or does
Mary tell Jesus whom to save? | 2. Do you worship Mary?
| 3. Did Mary begat God the father? | 4. Explain the Doctrine of Justification? |
| All the priests said that Mary was sinless. But when I then | asked if
she was divine, they all said that she wasnĘt. | Asking for a chapter and a
verse to backup such statements | was too much for them, so I did not ask,
since I understand | that Catholics do not use the Bible as their sole
authority. | Sadly Catholic tradition, Church leaders, and the Pope seem |
to hold more weight than the Holy Scriptures. Also none of | them would
admit that Mary begat God the father, and none of | them would admit that
salvation comes through Mary. When | asked about the doctrine of
Justification, what I was told | was not Biblical. I was told that
obedience to the 10 | commandments and the Sacraments was involved in |
Justification.

...

| I asked the priests about all the Mary statues throughout | the Catholic
world, but some said that the statues do not | mean a worship of Mary, but
devotion and a reverence to | her. So none of them would admit that they
worshipped Mary. | The priests condemned the Catholics in other regions of
the | world that kiss Mary statues and bow down to them. |
| Regardless of what they say, the Catholic Church is in | violation of the
10 commandments.

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=194569

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