02-21-15 13:13 Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Ed Vance about Re: IP Address
Changes-Wh

 WvV> {at}MSGID: 
 WvV> Hi,
Howdy! Wilfred,

 WvV> On 2015-02-20 23:35:00, Ed Vance wrote to All:
 WvV>   about: "IP Address Changes-Why?":

 EV> Usually this XP MCE SP3 pc

 WvV> Hey! This is the Win95 area. Get out of here with your XP
 WvV> questions! ;-)

, It was from reading messages in this FIDO echo from people who
bought XP and were very pleased with it that I decided to get a XP pc
around 2006.

Alan Zisman is the Moderator of this echo and has allowed many many Off
Topic messages here.
I don't know who the Moderator of the Windows echo is.

afaik neither Moderator posts Rules, Alan does step in when he feels it
necessary to comment about what someone wrote here.

I don't like being on the Bleeding Edge when I purchase anything.
When I know things are working good with the thing from reading good
reviews about it, then I decide if I want to spend money on one for
myself.

I got a used Acer Notebook with Windows 95 in 1998.
I was using a 486 with MS-DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1 at the time I bought
it, but I got it to use as Win95 Training Wheels so I could learn about
what the others who used Win95 were talking about here in this echo.

I have jumped the gun a few times and got on the Bleeding Edge.

The first time was in the 1970's, someone I knew showed me his
HP RPN Calculator that his company paid $300.00 USD for him to use in
his work for them.
Olsen Electronics had a four function calculator with a square root key
and me not thinking calculators would go down much in price bought it
for $80.00 USD .

Two years later I was at my parents on CHRISTmas Day and learned that
my folks gave all the nieces and nephews a four function calculator
that had a square root key, so I asked and found out they paid under
$10.00 USD for a bunch of them.   DUH!

The other time was in the late 1990's when I bought a HP 4c Scanner for
a few pennies less than $1000.00 USD, thinking that those things
wouldn't drop down in price very soon.

A couple of years later I was at a friends house and noticed they had a
Scanner and learned they paid less than $300.00 USD for it.

DUH! AGAIN. Now All In Ones can be bought for under $60.00 USD.
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 EV> I have been wandering through XP Help and Support pages to see if there
 EV> was a way to always make the XP pc use the DOT One Hundred IP Address
 EV> but all I could find was that I could fix the IP Address but Not To Do
 EV> It because it was recommended to keep the DNS setting set to Automatic
 EV> on the page I read about how to fix the IP Address.

 WvV> I think this advice is wrong. If you run services on a pc, you
 WvV> better set the IP configuration to static. Use an IP number
 WvV> outside the DHCP range which apparently starts with 100 on your
 WvV> router. So 192.168.1.10 could be a good candidate. The subnet
 WvV> mask would be 255.255.255.0. The default gateway and Prefered
 WvV> DNS server should be copied from your current configuration.
 WvV> (You know where to look for those?)

I'm not too smart about Network things.
I don't even know if my computers are running 'services'.

Some time ago when I talked to an AT&T DSL Technician, I was told make
some changes to my DSL Modems settings, and start using a 'Bridge'
setting instead of the way it originally was set up.

I definately would call to talk to a DSL Technician before I would set
this XP pc with a fixed IP Address.

Knowing my pass failures I probably would mess my DSL Service up after
making the change.
But I do appreciate the instructions that You gave me. Thanks!

 WvV> If you have made special adaptations to your routers/firewall
 WvV> configuration to point to the .100 address, of course you have
 WvV> to change those to the new IP address.

Afaik, the Bridge connection, and Fort Know Personal Firewall made by
NETGATE Technologies is all of the changes that I made.
I can't remember if I had the Router when I did those changes or not.

The first time I tried to look at the DSL Modem Logs after I made the
change to the Bridge connection, I learned that I couldn't look at the
Modem Logs anymore to see what I could learn from them.
But I've keep the Bridge setting because even though I know how to
press the Reset Button on the DSL Modem I'd be afraid I'd really get in
trouble and have to call and talk with another Technician to get things
straightened out.

Using Computers is a Hobby not a Profession, but there are Professionals
AND Hobbyist who read this echo and have helped me a bunch of times.

 WvV> I don't know anything about the Wallwatcher and Getlog
 WvV> programs, but maybe they also need to be told to use the new
 WvV> address. Or maybe just reboot after the IP configuration
 WvV> change, will fix this automagically?

Those programs read the Log on the Router and save those readings in
text files that I could look at to try to learn things, and see what
the Address of the traffic going through my router is about.

When the XP pc has the .100 IP Address they work fine, and I can even
turn on the Vista pc after I've started up Wallwatcher and Getlog on
the XP pc, and seeing the information in Wallwatcher about the Traffic
going from and coming to the .101 IP Address that the Vista pc has now.

It just seems to me that the programs don't want to work unless the
IP Address on the XP pc ends in .100 .   DUH!

 WvV> Does this make any sense to you?

Thanks for the help.
I'll think it over, and most likely talk to a DSL Technician before
changing any network settings in Control Panel.

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