From: rfischer{at}sonic.net (Ray Fischer)

stumper   wrote:
>Ray Fischer wrote:
>> stumper   wrote:
>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>>>> Do you exist because you think?
>>>>>> I did philosophy 101 in college a couple of
decades ago.  get back to
>>>>>> us when you've learned how little you know.
>>>>> I read philosophy for seven years.
>>>> Ah, so you're a dishonest asshole who uses philosophy just to
>>>> argue, with no regard for the truth whatever.
>>>>
>>>>> How do you know whether the universe exists or not?
>>>> 1st Meditations.
>>> Philosophy is not science.
>>
>> I didn't say it is.
>>
>>> Religion is not science.
>>
>> Likewise.
>>
>>> Science is not good enough for philosophy.
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>>> Science is not good enough for religion.
>>
>> Says the wanker using science to communicate with people.
>
>You are sadly mistaken.

Not usually and not this time, wanker.

>I have been doing philosophy all along.

    M: (Knock)
    A:   Come in.
    M:   Ah, Is this the right room for an argument?
    A:   I told you once.
    M:   No you haven't.
    A:   Yes I have.
    M:   When?
    A:    Just now.
    M:   No you didn't.
    A:   Yes I did.
    M:  You didn't
    A:   I did!
    M:  You didn't!
    A:   I'm telling you I did!
    M:  You did not!!
    A:   Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or
    the full half hour?
    M:  Oh, just the five minutes.
    A:   Ah, thank you. Anyway, I did.
    M:  You most certainly did not.
    A:   Look, let's get this thing clear; I quite definitely told you.
    M:  No you did not.
    A:   Yes I did.
    M:   No you didn't.
    A:   Yes I did.
    M:   No you didn't.
    A:   Yes I did.
    M:   No you didn't.
    A:   Yes I did.
    M:  You didn't.
    A:   Did.
    M:  Oh look, this isn't an argument.
    A:   Yes it is.
    M:   No it isn't. It's just contradiction.
    A:   No it isn't.
    M:  It is!
    A:   It is not.
    M:  Look, you just contradicted me.
    A:   I did not.
    M:  Oh you did!!
    A:   No, no, no.
    M:  You did just then.
    A:   Nonsense!
    M:  Oh, this is futile!
    A:   No it isn't.
    M:  I came here for a good argument.
    A:   No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M:  An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A:   It can be.
    M:  No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements
    intended to establish a proposition.
    A:   No it isn't.
    M:  Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A:   Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M:  Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A:   Yes it is!
    M:   No it isn't!

    A:   Yes it is!
    M:  Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the
    automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
    (short pause)
    A:  No it isn't.
    M:  It is.
    A:  Not at all.
    M:  Now look.
    A: (Rings bell)  Good Morning.
    M:  What?
    A:   That's it. Good morning.
    M:   I was just getting interested.
    A:   Sorry, the five minutes is up.
    M:  That was never five minutes!
    A:   I'm afraid it was.
    M:  It wasn't.
    Pause
    A:   I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue anymore.
    M:  What?!
    A:   If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another
    five minutes.
    M:  Yes, but that was never five minutes, just now. Oh come on!
    A:  (Hums)
    M:  Look, this is ridiculous.
    A:   I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!
    M:  Oh, all right.
    (pays money)
    A:   Thank you.
    short pause
    M:  Well?
    A:   Well what?
    M:   That wasn't really five minutes, just now.
    A:    I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.
    M:   I just paid!
    A:   No you didn't.
    M:   I DID!
    A:   No you didn't.
    M:  Look, I don't want to argue about that.
    A:  Well, you didn't pay.
    M:  Aha. If I didn't pay, why are you arguing? I Got you!
    A:   No you haven't.
    M:  Yes I have. If you're arguing, I must have paid.
    A:   Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.
    M:  Oh I've had enough of this.
    A:   No you haven't.
    M:  Oh Shut up.

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Ray Fischer
rfischer{at}sonic.net

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