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to: Gary Britt
from: Randy H
date: 2005-12-15 19:03:50
subject: Re: Bang!

From: "Randy H" 

You may have some problems with jamming CA's mix down in the mountain state
areas, where lower octane is the norm becuase of the altitude.

"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
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> Eliminating a lot of the bureaucracy on the mixes would certainly help
> improve effective refining capacity compared to things now.  I'm not
> totally
> sold on everybody use California's mix, but I'm sure there are several
> ways
> to simplify things.
>
> Of course the best way would be the one that lets the free markets decide
> on
> what mix consumers prefer the most.  It may not be possible to make it
> completely unregulated, but the more unregulated the better usually.
>
> I forgot to tell George about that carburetor modification that I invented
> that would make every car in the country get 100 mpg over night because
> big
> oil paid me to keep it a secret.
>
> Gary
>
> "Mark"  wrote in message
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>> Indeed Gary, it's a bunch of ill-informed little fiefdoms all across the
> US,
>> whose ears are influenced by the environmentalists, that brings us all
>> the
>> mixes of gas to save us from ourselves -- all it really does is bollix up
>> the distribution and cause localized shortages and price spikes in those
>> same areas. The best thing that could happen is for the Feds to override
> all
>> their crap and make it one mix for all, like it was before the wackos got
>> out of control.
>>
>> Let's take the most dimbulb, supposedly most "environmentally
friendly"
>> current mix (that'd be the LA mix most likely (or do the SF people have
> the
>> prize at the moment?), and make it the norm nationwide. That way the
> fiefdom
>> that created that "best" mix has no friggin leg to stand
on in protest --
>> and they'll scream like stuffed pigs anyway  that,
>> 'ours' has to be better">
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:43a0f793$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > George you are really out there in moonbat land on some of these
>> > conspiracy
>> > theories.  I've never noticed such differences in gasoline mixes and
>> > mileage
>> > as you have.  I can tell you that during the gas shortages from Katrina
>> > bringing down prices that most states granted a variance from what they
>> > normally require of gas mixes.  Yes the state governments regulate gas
>> > mixtures and they tell the oil companies what's got to be in the gas
>> > and
>> > what can't be in the gas for pollution control and other purposes.
> There
>> > are also different mixes for summer and winter conditions that are
>> > mandated
>> > by the state governments.  So all those mixes you've experienced were
> most
>> > likely mixes that were specified by your state government and not some
>> > evil
>> > conspiracy by big oil.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > "Geo"  wrote in message
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>> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>> >> news:43a0184e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >>
>> >> > That's affected much more by the refining capacities
of the oil
>> > companies
>> >> > than some evil plot.
>> >>
>> >> Oh bullshit, let me explain to you how it works. There
are different
>> >> mixes
>> >> of gasoline, mix A gives me 22mpg in my truck, mix B
gives me 18mpg.
>> >>
>> >> During the height of the refining capacity crunch they
were churning
> out
>> > mix
>> >> A, I watch my mpg on every tank full and it was painfully obvious.
>> >> Then
>> >> as
>> >> the price started to drop so did my milage, until as we
touched $2/gal
>> > they
>> >> were fully back to mix B.
>> >>
>> >> Now work the numbers 22mpg vs 18mpg, that's a 20% difference which
> means
>> > by
>> >> changing mix they can affect demand by up to 20%. Ok now
even though
>> >> gasoline prices are now at about $2.20/gal usage has
climbed back up
>> >> by
>> >> 9million barrels per day which one would expect if
suddenly everyone
> were
>> >> getting 20% fewer miles per gallon.
>> >>
>> >> It's a game Gary, gasoline prices are being manipulated and the oil
>> >> companies are all too happy to help since it's making
them rich. The
>> >> government is using gasoline prices as a secondary control over
> inflation
>> >> (higher gas prices means they can raise interest rates
0.25% to make
>> >> everyone think inflation is under control). This is why
you don't hear
>> > every
>> >> congresscritter on the planet screaming that the oil companies are
>> > stuffing
>> >> it up our butts.
>> >>
>> >> Geo.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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