From: "Rich Gauszka" 

How about something more realistic - There is this country ( Iraq )and it
never has menaced me directly but I have this suspicion although I can't
find any proof that it  -just may in the future.  Plus the person running
that country is a rather foul fellow. Should I attack them?  Before you
answer you as a Catholic may wish to consider what one of your popes said
about violence and 'the end justifies the means'. Note the 'NEVER'


Pope John Paul II said "Violence begets violence" and the
Catholic Church has long since condemned violence, for the "end never
justifies the means." We may never use an evil means to seek a good
end or purpose.


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
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> So if you reasonably believe a person has a gun and is about to murder
> your
> 6 month old baby, and if you act on that belief by shooting and killing
> that
> person.  Then when it turns out that person had a squirt gun full of holy
> water, the shooter is a sinful murderer under your religion?
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
> news:439ddff3{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > It depends on what you reasonably believed at the time you acted.  Its
> not
>> > an absolute.
>>
>> It's absolute to me.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
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>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:439dd974{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > It depends on what you reasonably believed at the time you acted.  Its
> not
>> > an absolute.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>> > news:439dd934{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> > That is not a bar to self defense.
>> >>
>> >> Of course, but if you kill only on suspicion and you're wrong, that
>> >> definitely breaks that commandment.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bob Comer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>> >> news:439dd171$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> > That is not a bar to self defense.
>> >> >
>> >> > Gary
>> >> >
>> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>> >> > news:439dcd1d$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> Thou shall not kill...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Bob Comer
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> news:439dc9ce$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> > Au contraire, Even more so when it might
involve USA citizens
>> >> >> > getting
>> >> >> > killed.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in
>> >> >> > message
>> >> >> > news:439db83c{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> Not when it involves killing.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Bob Comer
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:439db669$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> > Better safe than sorry.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in
>> >> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> > news:439db2cb$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> You don't know they're not.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> news:439daf9f$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> > You don't know they are imaginary.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >> > news:439da957{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> >> Imaginary WMD's don't
mean that they are there either.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> "Gary
Britt"  wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> >> news:439d95a9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> >> > None found
doesn't mean none there.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > "Robert
Comer"  wrote
> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Yes,
and you know this how?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> No WMD's of course.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Gary
Britt"  wrote in
> message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Yes,
and you know this how?  How many WMD's have you
>> > looked
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> >> >> > land
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > area as
large as California, and that doesn't count
> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > land
>> >> >> > area
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Syria
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > where
they may have gone and where you aren't allowed
> to
>> >> > look
>> >> >> > at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > all.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
"Robert Comer"  wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> They got the WMD well hid.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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Dream on. They would have been found by now.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
"Gary Britt"  wrote in
>> > message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> They got the WMD well hid.  Democrap traitor and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > US
>> >> > senator
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Warner
>> >> >> >> >> >> > went
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> Syria and Saudi Arabia (at a time when he was the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > head
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > senate
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> intelligence committee) and told Syria and Saudi
>> > Arabia
>> >> >> >> >> > (supporters
>> >> >> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> Hussein) that Bush was going to invade and they
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > should
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > prepare.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Relying
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> upon the advice of this well connected democrap
>> > traitor,
>> >> >> >> > convoys
>> >> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > trucks
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> began moving lots of something into Syria during
> the
>> > few
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > months
>> >> >> >> >> >> > before
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> invasion.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Gary
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in
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> news:439c7fb4{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > Sanctions weren't working at all,
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>> They just got rid of the WMD's and since that was
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> > aim
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I
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>> don't
>> >> >> >> >> >> > see
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > how
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> you could say they didn't work.
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> Bob Comer
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in
>> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> news:439c41bb$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > Sanctions weren't working at all, and had we
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > not
>> > gone
>> >> > in
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>> > the
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>> > entirely
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>> > corrupt and bought UN would have dissolved the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > sanctions.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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>> > Gary
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > "Geo"  wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote
> in
>> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> news:439b0ce0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > Iraq war was forced on us by Hussein's
> failure
>> > to
>> >> >> > comply
>> >> >> >> >> > with
>> >> >> >> >> >> > UN
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > orders;
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>> >> You mean to produce evidence that 50,000
> gallons
>> > of
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>> >> anthrax
>> >> >> >> >> > had
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> been
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> destroyed, the same 50,000 gallons that we
> still
>> >> > can't
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> find
>> >> >> >> >> > even
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > after
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 2
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>> >> years of completely free run of the place?
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>> >> Sanctions were working just fine, there was no
>> > need
>> >> > to
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