From: "Robert G Lewis" 

We have had continuing peace talks. Not sure if there are any currently.
the US government for many years seemed to think that a peace treaty would
be the end. Otherwise why continue peace talks. So not exactly a 'win'.
Definitely not a loss though.

We have also kept some very good combat troops there until recently and
have had casualties from North Korean actions over the years. Not exactly
what most people could consider peace.


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
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> Well to steal a paraphrase of your line, I guess its how you define
"end".
> When there is no fighting going on and when the lines are stabilized and
> non-movable, then the war is over.  I'll give you a kind of very mild cold
> war could be said to still exist, but that's no different than saying we
> are
> keeping an eye on each other.  War as most people understand the term is
> over in Korea since Eisenhower.
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
> news:439eed6b{at}w3.nls.net...
>> What I said was quite correct. It's a technically but correct.
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:439eecd0{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >I couldn't remember about world war I, I'll take your word for it.
> You're
>> > wrong about the Korean war not ending.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the correction on Wilson.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > "Robert G Lewis" 
wrote in message
>> > news:439ee9a4{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> When did Wilson become a Republican ?
>> >>
>> >> Korean War technically hasn't ended, only an armistice.
>> >>
>> >> Viet Nam ........
>> >>
>> >> I guess it all depends on one's definition of  'won'
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>> >> news:439dafcd$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> > Yes and except for WWII they were all won by Republicans.
>> >> >
>> >> > Gary
>> >> >
>> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>> >> > news:439daaa7{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> Lets see, WWI and WWII started with a democrat
presidents, as did
> the
>> >> > Korean
>> >> >> war, and I believe the Vietnam war escalated
under a democrat...
> (and
>> >> >> that's just the ones off the top of my head.)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Bob Comer
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> news:439d96b1$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> > The problem with the democraps is that
nobody seems to be an
>> >> >> > enemy
>> >> >> > or
>> >> >> > an
>> >> >> > enemy worth fighting.  There doesn't appear
to be anything they
>> >> >> > would
>> >> > ever
>> >> >> > deem worth protecting (except their
personal short term political
>> >> > power).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:439d932a{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> The problem is that everyone seems to
be your enemy these days
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:439d90de{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> > Victory.  Self Defense.  Deter
aggression by our enemies.  You
>> > know,
>> >> >> >> > all
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > stuff the democraps don't care about.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > news:439d7ba6$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> So in place of Murtha we
currently have someone who hid
>> >> >> >> >> somewhere
>> >> >> > around
>> >> >> >> >> Alabama for over a year during
the Vietnam era?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> This invisible man of the 70s
and his appointed cronies
>> >> >> >> >> placed
>> > the
>> >> >> >> > military
>> >> >> >> >> in the position they are now.
Tell me what their grand plan
>> >> >> >> >> is
>> >> > again?
>> >> >> > Oh
>> >> >> >> >> yeah - stay the course -
destabilize the region, increase the
>> >> > national
>> >> >> >> > debt,
>> >> >> >> >> damage the national guard and
ready reserve ......
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "Mark"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:439d175e{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> > Let's elect Murtha
President and CinC, then he can
>> >> >> >> >> > implement
>> > his
>> >> >> >> > wonderful
>> >> >> >> >> > plan based on his past
experience of operational control of
>> >> >> >> >> > our
>> >> >> > ground
>> >> >> >> >> > forces in Vietnam.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > As I've previously said,
if the generals that are actually
> on
>> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > ground
>> >> >> >> >> > prosecuting the war
thought it was such a great idea to
>> >> >> >> >> > cut,
>> > run,
>> >> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> > observe from afar, they'd
have already done so  left,
>> > to
>> >> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > man,
>> >> >> >> >> > believes Murtha is the
second coming when it comes to
> military
>> >> >> > prowess
>> >> >> >> >> > that supercedes all
others -- yea right, please, give it a
>> > rest,
>> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> > let
>> >> >> >> >> > him go back to relative
obscurity and serve out his
> remaining
>> >> >> >> >> > term
>> >> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> > peace>
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> > news:439d1366$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> >> That's as logical as
marching in with no viable plan to
> exit
>> > and
>> >> >> >> >> >> believing Ahmed
Chalabi that a grateful population would
>> > flower
>> >> > us
>> >> >> >> >> >> with
>> >> >> >> >> >> gratitude and all
would be right with the world.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Here's a partial text
of Murtha's statement - full can be
>> > found
>> >> > at
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20051118110122903
>> >> >> >> >> >> I believe before the
Iraqi elections, scheduled for mid
>> >> >> >> >> >> December,
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> Iraqi people and the
emerging government must be put on
>> >> >> >> >> >> notice
>> >> > that
>> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> United States will
immediately redeploy. All of Iraq must
>> >> >> >> >> >> know
>> >> > that
>> >> >> >> > Iraq
>> >> >> >> >> >> is free. Free from
United States occupation. I believe
>> >> >> >> >> >> this
>> > will
>> >> >> > send
>> >> >> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> >> >> signal to the Sunnis
to join the political process for the
>> > good
>> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> >> >> "free" Iraq.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> My plan calls:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>  a.. To immediately
redeploy U.S. troops consistent with
> the
>> >> > safety
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >> >> U.S. forces.
>> >> >> >> >> >>  b.. To create a
quick reaction force in the region.
>> >> >> >> >> >>  c.. To create an
over- the- horizon presence of Marines.
>> >> >> >> >> >>  d.. To
diplomatically pursue security and stability in
> Iraq
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> "Mark"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> >> news:439d0feb$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Not at all, the
oil-for-food program morphed out of the
>> >> > sanctions
>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>> you're right,
we're always wrong and we should Murtha on
> out
>> >> > right
>> >> >> >> >> >>> now
>> >> >> >> >> >>> and release
Saddam back to his palaces and atone for our
>> >> >> >> >> >>> sins --
>> >> >> >> >> >>> maybe
>> >> >> >> >> >>> the government
will cancel our free digital conversion
> boxes
>> > in
>> >> >> > favor
>> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >> >>> prayer rugs and
special Mecca compasses for all of us>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> "Rich
Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
news:439d0d61$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Making up the
rules of the sanctions now?  The economic
>> >> > sanctions
>> >> >> >> > were
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> meant to
force weapons inspections and prevent Iraq from
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> acquiring
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> WMDs. Found any?
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
"Mark"  wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
news:439d09f0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> The
sanctions worked just fine? Are you in total denial
> on
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
oil-for-food mega-scandal? > > Saddam
>> >> > was
>> >> >> >> > using
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> that
program to corrupt the security council to
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> maintain
>> >> > power?>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
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>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> Well
there's always the diabolical Iraqi sand fleas
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> hid
>> > them
>> >> >> >> > excuse.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> <
the sanctions worked just fine >
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
"Gary Britt"  wrote in
> message
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
news:439d0250$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
Yes, and you know this how?  How many WMD's have you
>> > looked
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> for
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> in
>> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> land
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
area as large as California, and that doesn't count
> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> land
>> >> >> > area
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Syria
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
where they may have gone and where you aren't allowed
> to
>> >> > look
>> >> >> > at
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> all.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Gary
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
"Robert Comer"  wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> message
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
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>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > They got the WMD well hid.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> Dream on. They would have been found by
now.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> --
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> Bob Comer
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in
>> > message
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> news:439cc828{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > They got the WMD well hid.  Democrap
traitor and
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> > US
>> >> > senator
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > Warner went
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> to
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > Syria and Saudi Arabia (at a time
when he was the
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > head
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> > of
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > senate
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > intelligence committee) and told
Syria and Saudi
>> > Arabia
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > (supporters of
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > Hussein) that Bush was going to
invade and they
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > should
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > prepare.
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > Relying
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > upon the advice of this well
connected democrap
>> > traitor,
>> >> >> >> > convoys
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> > of
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> trucks
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > began moving lots of something into
Syria during
> the
>> > few
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > months
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > before
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > invasion.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > message
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > news:439c7fb4{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> > Sanctions weren't working at
all,
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> They just got rid of the WMD's
and since that was
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> the
>> >> > aim
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> I
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> don't see
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> how
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> you could say they didn't work.
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> --
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Bob Comer
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in
>> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> news:439c41bb$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> > Sanctions weren't working at
all, and had we
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> > not
>> > gone
>> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> > entirely
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> > corrupt and bought UN would
have dissolved the
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> > sanctions.
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> > "Geo"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
news:439bb28b$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote
> in
>> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >>
news:439b0ce0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> > Iraq war was forced
on us by Hussein's
> failure
>> > to
>> >> >> > comply
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> > with UN
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> > orders;
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> You mean to produce
evidence that 50,000
> gallons
>> > of
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> anthrax
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> had been
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> destroyed, the same
50,000 gallons that we
> still
>> >> > can't
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> find
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> even
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> after
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> > 2
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> years of completely free
run of the place?
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> Sanctions were working
just fine, there was no
>> > need
>> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> rush
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> before
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> > the
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> > UN
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> got around to it.
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >>
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>>>>>>>> >> >> Geo.
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