From: "Robert Comer" 

> So you'd let the guy shoot your 6 month old baby.

I don't have a 6 month old baby.

>That's the only way to be
> as sure as you want to be.

I'd error on the side of caution if there was doubt, I would not shoot the
guy, and since I don't even own a gun, the point is moot. (and will
probably never own a gun)

--
Bob Comer


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
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> So you'd let the guy shoot your 6 month old baby.  That's the only way to
> be
> as sure as you want to be.
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
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>> > You can't see what you don't think you see.
>>
>> I'd make darn sure I knew what I saw, duh.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
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>> > There is no doubt implied Robert.  You either think you saw a gun or
>> > you
>> > don't think you saw a gun.  I didn't say he thought he might have seen
>> > a
>> > gun.
>> >
>> > You can't see what you don't think you see.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
>> > news:439e38b6{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> > How can you see a gun without thinking you saw a gun?
>> >>
>> >> Easy, if there was any doubt, I would not shoot first and ask
>> >> questions
>> >> later.
>> >>
>> >> I realize I'm a bit extreme in my ideals, but I really
wouldn't kill
>> > anyone,
>> >> even at the cost of my own life. The only reason I would kill is to
>> > protect
>> >> someone else and there would have to be VERY good proof that the
>> >> danger
>> > was
>> >> there.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bob Comer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>> >> news:439df66c{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> > How can you see a gun without thinking you saw a gun?
>> >> >
>> >> > Gary
>> >> >
>> >> > "Robert Comer"
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>> >> >> > So as long as you think you saw a real gun,
then its ok.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> No, "saw" a gun, not "think I
saw" a gun.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Bob Comer
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Gary Britt"
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>> >> >> > So as long as you think you saw a real gun,
then its ok.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in
>> >> >> > message
>> >> >> > news:439de5b9{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >Then when it turns out that person
had a squirt gun full of
>> >> >> >> >holy
>> >> >> >> > water, the shooter is a sinful
murderer under your religion?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You're adding parameters -- if I
couldn't see that he had a gun,
> I
>> >> >> >> only
>> >> >> >> suspected he did, yes, if I shot him
I'd be a murderer.  If I
>> >> >> >> saw
>> > that
>> >> >> > "gun"
>> >> >> >> of his and it looked like a real gun,
then it would be self
>> >> >> >> defense.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Bob Comer
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:439de184{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> > So if you reasonably believe a
person has a gun and is about
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> > murder
>> >> >> >> > your
>> >> >> >> > 6 month old baby, and if you act
on that belief by shooting
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> > killing
>> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> > person.  Then when it turns out
that person had a squirt gun
> full
>> > of
>> >> >> > holy
>> >> >> >> > water, the shooter is a sinful
murderer under your religion?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in
>> >> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> > news:439ddff3{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> > It depends on what you
reasonably believed at the time you
>> > acted.
>> >> >> > Its
>> >> >> >> > not
>> >> >> >> >> > an absolute.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> It's absolute to me.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"
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>> >> >> >> >> news:439dd974{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> > It depends on what you
reasonably believed at the time you
>> > acted.
>> >> >> > Its
>> >> >> >> > not
>> >> >> >> >> > an absolute.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >> > news:439dd934{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> >> > That is not a
bar to self defense.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Of course, but if you
kill only on suspicion and you're
>> >> >> >> >> >> wrong,
>> >> > that
>> >> >> >> >> >> definitely breaks
that commandment.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> "Gary
Britt"  wrote in message
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>> >> >> >> >> >> > That is not a
bar to self defense.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > "Robert
Comer"  wrote
> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thou shall not kill...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Gary
Britt"  wrote in
> message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Au
contraire, Even more so when it might involve USA
>> >> > citizens
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > getting
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > killed.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
"Robert Comer" 
> wrote
>> > in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Not
when it involves killing.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
"Gary Britt"  wrote in
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> Better safe than sorry.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Gary
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> "Robert Comer" 
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>> >> > in
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>> You don't know they're not.
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>> > You don't know they are imaginary.
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>> > Gary
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>> > "Robert Comer"
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> Imaginary WMD's don't mean that they are there
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>> >>
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>> >> --
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>> >> Bob Comer
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>> >> "Gary Britt" 
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> in
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > None found doesn't mean none there.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > "Robert Comer"
>> > 
>> >> >> > wrote
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > news:439d806a{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > Yes, and you know this how?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> No WMD's of course.
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> Bob Comer
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>> >> >>
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> "Gary Britt"

> wrote
>> > in
>> >> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> news:439d0250$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > Yes, and you know this how?  How many
> WMD's
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> >> >> > looked
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > land
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > area as large as California, and that
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > doesn't
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > count
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > land
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > area
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > Syria
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > where they may have gone and where you
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > aren't
>> >> >> > allowed
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> >> > look
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > all.
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>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > Gary
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>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > "Robert Comer"

>> > wrote
>> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > news:439cf1ae{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > They got the WMD well hid.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Dream on. They would have been found by
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>> >> >> >> now.
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>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"

>> > wrote
>> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > They got the WMD well hid. 
Democrap
>> > traitor
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > US
>> >> >> >> >> >> > senator
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Warner
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > went
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Syria and Saudi Arabia (at a time
when
> he
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > the
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>> >> >> >> > head
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the
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>> > senate
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > intelligence committee) and told
Syria
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Saudi
>> >> >> >> >> > Arabia
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>> > (supporters
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Hussein) that Bush was going to
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>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> > they
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Relying
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > upon the advice of this well
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>> >> > democrap
>> >> >> >> >> > traitor,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > convoys
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > trucks
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > began moving lots of something
into
> Syria
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > during
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > few
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > months
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > before
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>> >> >> > the
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>> >> >> >> > invasion.
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>> >> >> >> > Gary
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>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
> 
>> >> > wrote
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > message
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Sanctions weren't working
at all,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> They just got rid of the WMD's
and
> since
>> >> > that
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > aim
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I
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>> >> >> >> >> don't
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>> >> > see
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>> >> >> >> >> you could say they didn't
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> 
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>> >> >> >> >> >> > message
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>> >> >> >> >> > Sanctions weren't working
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> and
>> > had
>> >> > we
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>> >> >> >> >> > gone
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>> >> > UN
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>> >> >> >> >> >> You mean to produce
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