From: "Gary Britt" 

So you'd let the guy shoot your 6 month old baby.  That's the only way to
be as sure as you want to be.

Gary

"Robert Comer"  wrote in message
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> > You can't see what you don't think you see.
>
> I'd make darn sure I knew what I saw, duh.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
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> > There is no doubt implied Robert.  You either think you saw a gun or you
> > don't think you saw a gun.  I didn't say he thought he might have seen a
> > gun.
> >
> > You can't see what you don't think you see.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> > news:439e38b6{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> > How can you see a gun without thinking you saw a gun?
> >>
> >> Easy, if there was any doubt, I would not shoot first and ask questions
> >> later.
> >>
> >> I realize I'm a bit extreme in my ideals, but I really wouldn't kill
> > anyone,
> >> even at the cost of my own life. The only reason I would kill is to
> > protect
> >> someone else and there would have to be VERY good proof that the danger
> > was
> >> there.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bob Comer
> >>
> >>
> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
> >> news:439df66c{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> > How can you see a gun without thinking you saw a gun?
> >> >
> >> > Gary
> >> >
> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
> >> > news:439dea11{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> > So as long as you think you saw a real gun, then its ok.
> >> >>
> >> >> No, "saw" a gun, not "think I saw" a gun.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Bob Comer
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
> >> >> news:439de6b0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> > So as long as you think you saw a real gun, then its ok.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
> >> >> > news:439de5b9{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >Then when it turns out that person had
a squirt gun full of holy
> >> >> >> > water, the shooter is a sinful
murderer under your religion?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You're adding parameters -- if I couldn't
see that he had a gun,
I
> >> >> >> only
> >> >> >> suspected he did, yes, if I shot him I'd be
a murderer.  If I saw
> > that
> >> >> > "gun"
> >> >> >> of his and it looked like a real gun, then
it would be self
> >> >> >> defense.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Bob Comer
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:439de184{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> > So if you reasonably believe a person
has a gun and is about to
> >> > murder
> >> >> >> > your
> >> >> >> > 6 month old baby, and if you act on
that belief by shooting and
> >> > killing
> >> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> > person.  Then when it turns out that
person had a squirt gun
full
> > of
> >> >> > holy
> >> >> >> > water, the shooter is a sinful
murderer under your religion?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in
> >> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> > news:439ddff3{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> > It depends on what you
reasonably believed at the time you
> > acted.
> >> >> > Its
> >> >> >> > not
> >> >> >> >> > an absolute.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> It's absolute to me.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:439dd974{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> > It depends on what you
reasonably believed at the time you
> > acted.
> >> >> > Its
> >> >> >> > not
> >> >> >> >> > an absolute.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in
> >> >> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> >> > news:439dd934{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> >> > That is not a bar to
self defense.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Of course, but if you
kill only on suspicion and you're
> >> >> >> >> >> wrong,
> >> > that
> >> >> >> >> >> definitely breaks that commandment.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:439dd171$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> >> > That is not a bar to
self defense.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Robert
Comer"  wrote
in
> >> >> >> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> > news:439dcd1d$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thou shall not kill...
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Gary
Britt"  wrote in
message
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Au
contraire, Even more so when it might involve USA
> >> > citizens
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > getting
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > killed.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
"Robert Comer" 
wrote
> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Not
when it involves killing.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
"Gary Britt"  wrote in
> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
Better safe than sorry.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
"Robert Comer" 
> > wrote
> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> You don't know they're not.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> Bob Comer
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > You don't know they are imaginary.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > Gary
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > "Robert Comer"

> >> > wrote
> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > news:439da957{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> Imaginary WMD's don't mean that they are there
> >> > either.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> Bob Comer
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> "Gary Britt" 
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in
> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > None found doesn't mean none there.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > Gary
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > "Robert Comer"
> > 
> >> >> > wrote
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > news:439d806a{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > Yes, and you know this how?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> No WMD's of course.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> Bob Comer
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> "Gary Britt"

wrote
> > in
> >> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> news:439d0250$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > Yes, and you know this how?  How many
WMD's
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > have
> >> >> > you
> >> >> >> >> > looked
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > land
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > area as large as California, and that
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > doesn't
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > count
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > land
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > area
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > Syria
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > where they may have gone and where you
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > aren't
> >> >> > allowed
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> >> > look
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > at
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > all.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > "Robert Comer"

> > wrote
> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > news:439cf1ae{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > They got the WMD well hid.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Dream on. They would have been found by
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Bob Comer
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"

> > wrote
> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > They got the WMD well hid. 
Democrap
> > traitor
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > US
> >> >> >> >> >> > senator
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Warner
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > went
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Syria and Saudi Arabia (at a time
when
he
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > was
> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > head
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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Syria
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Saudi
> >> >> >> >> > Arabia
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > (supporters
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>> >> > of
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Hussein) that Bush was going to
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > and
> >> > they
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > should
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>> >> >> >> > prepare.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Relying
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > upon the advice of this well
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> >> > democrap
> >> >> >> >> > traitor,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > convoys
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > trucks
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > began moving lots of something
into
Syria
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > during
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > few
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > months
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > invasion.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > "Robert Comer"

> >> > wrote
> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Sanctions weren't working
at all,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> They just got rid of the WMD's
and
since
> >> > that
> >> >> > was
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> >> >> > aim
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> don't
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> you could say they didn't
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"

> >> > wrote
> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Sanctions weren't working
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and
> > had
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > not
> >> >> >> >> > gone
> >> >> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >> > corrupt and bought UN
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> >> >> > wrote
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > message
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>> >> >> >> >> >> > Iraq war was
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> >> >> >> > failure
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> > comply
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>> >> > UN
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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