From: "Gary Britt" 

Or you can be an incompetent neo-surrender monkey like Kerry and the
democraps.  What's an incompetent neo-surrender monkey you ask?  Why that's
a surrender monkey who tries to avoid service (just like Cheney), but isn't
able to pull off the paperwork.  Then they come home after hiding as best
they could from any action and confess to being war criminals and call all
the honorable men and women in combat war criminals too.  They tell lies
and engage in frivolous acts of aid and comfort to the enemy, while
soldiers are still in harms way, for TV cameras and personal political
gain.  Years later they reprise this same act by going on national TV and
calling a whole new group of brave USA soldiers war criminals, again as was
the case the first time for purposes of personal pecuniary gain and
increased notoriety.

That's a neo-surrender monkey.  I'd rather be a neo-con punk myself.  You
can still be honorable, truthful, and serve your country selflessly while
meeting your  definition of neo-con punk, but the same is not true of the
neo-surrender monkeys.

Gary



"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
news:439a6592$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> Ah - yet to be a true neo-punk like Cheney one not only has to actively
> avoid service for their country but one  has to take up the mantle of
> super-patriotism years later and question the credentials of any American
> ( including notable veterans ) that oppose certain policies and
procedures.
> The neo-punk will not invest in reasonable dialogue but labors to convince
> his followers that questioning is un-American  and those that demean
> themselves thus obviously hate America.
>
> People have avoided the draft for many reasons and my rants aren't
directed
> at most who've made/ will make that decision just those selective few that
> have attained the rank of a saber rattling neo-punk
>
>
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> news:439a5ef6$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >I never said it was.  I said he didn't volunteer and he didn't.  If one
has
> > a chance to legally avoid being drafted then it takes a CHOICE to decide
> > to
> > not take the opportunity to avoid service.  By choosing NOT to avoid
> > service
> > he was making EXACTLY the same decision as the majority of men and women
> > today when they choose not to volunteer.  He made the CHOICE not to
> > volunteer by choosing to legally avoid service.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> > news:439a1a99{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> Twasn't a volunteer army back then - nice try - Cheney still a neo-con
> > punk.
> >> He's got great timing though - see below
> >> .
> >>
> >> http://www.discourse.net/archives/2004/10/short_dick_cheney.html
> >>
> >> Between 1963 and '65, Cheney used his student status at Casper College
> >> and
> >> the University of Wyoming to apply for and receive four 2-S draft
> >> deferments. As the war in Vietnam heated up, Cheney fought to defend
and
> >> expand his deferments. Twenty-two days after Congress approved the Gulf
> >> of
> >> Tonkin resolution in August 1964, raising the prospect of a rapid
> > expansion
> >> of the draft, he "coincidentally"-in the words of a
Washington Post
> >> profile-married Lynne. The advantage was that even if his student
> > deferment
> >> was lifted, his married status might carry some weight with his draft
> > board.
> >>
> >> But the Vietnamese were not cooperating with Cheney's schemes. The war
> > kept
> >> demanding more and more young American men, and the range of those who
> > were
> >> eligible for the draft expanded rapidly. On May 19, 1965, Cheney was
> >> reclassified with the most dangerous draft status: 1-A,
"available for
> >> military service." Soon afterward, Lyndon Johnson
announced that draft
> >> call-ups would double, and on October 26, Selective Service constraints
> >> on
> >> the drafting of childless married men were lifted. Danang was calling.
> >> And
> >> it didn't look like Dick had any excuses left.
> >> But there was one way for ambitious young men to avoid serving their
> > country
> >> while maintaining their political viability. If Cheney had a child,
he'd
> > be
> >> reclassified 3-A, removing him from the pool of those likely to be
> > drafted.
> >> Cheney needed a kid-quick. And he got one. Precisely nine months and
two
> >> days after the Selective Service eliminated special protections for
> >> childless married men, Cheney was no longer childless. His daughter
> >> Elizabeth was born on July 28, 1966. Convenient? Coincidence?
> >>
> >>
> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
> >> news:439a17d7$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> > Nope.  He just didn't volunteer.  Their are a majority
of young men
and
> >> > women today that aren't volunteering today, last year,
next year, etc
> >> > to
> >> > serve their country at a time of war.  None of them will
be properly
> >> > classified as neo-con punks.  Nor should they be.  Just
like Cheney.
> > They
> >> > are absolutely no different than what Cheney did.
> >> >
> >> > There are plenty of people who did serve that should
never be allowed
> >> > anywhere near command and authority.  Kerry is one.  Murtha is
another.
> >> > My
> >> > Brother would be a third.
> >> >
> >> > Gary
> >> >
> >> > "Rich Gauszka" 
wrote in message
> >> > news:4399f2a4{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> Yeah right  Neo-con patriotism at it's finest. 
Cheney punked out.
> >> >> Not
> >> >> enough heart to be either a protestor or to serve.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
> >> >> news:4399eee9{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> > An all time record high majority of voting
citizens disagreed with
> > your
> >> >> > assessment below.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I say Cheney was a lot more honest about his
Vietnam service than
> >> >> > was
> >> >> > Kerry.
> >> >> > Kerry tried to puff up 4 months of cowardice
under fire and three
> >> >> > scratches
> >> >> > into a heroic military career, and then lied
every time somebody
> > asked
> >> > him
> >> >> > about his traitorous actions after having
returned to the USA.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Recently he's been trying to do a reprise of
these traitorous
> >> >> > actions
> >> >> > by
> >> >> > accusing the men and women fighting in Iraq of
war crimes.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > He is a self-admitted war criminal, so that
sort of outweighs
> > Cheney's
> >> >> > legal
> >> >> > use of means to avoid service.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Lots of people have better things to do today
as well Rich.  They
> > just
> >> >> > don't
> >> >> > volunteer to serve.  Neither did Cheney.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
> >> >> > news:4399e28b{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> and so we elected a neo-punk  for VP who
had " better things to
do"
> >> > than
> >> >> >> serve his country when it counted. I know I
know he's just
> >> >> >> heartless
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:4399deaf{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> > Heck there was a presidential
candidate who based his entire
> >> >> >> > campaign
> >> >> >> > on
> >> >> > 4
> >> >> >> > months of boat driving and 3
Band-Aids, each covered with a
> >> >> >> > purple
> >> >> > heart.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Phil Payne"
 wrote in
> > message
> >> >> >> > news:4399d402{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> >  He also jokingly said that
the only reason he was awarded
the
> >> >> >> >> > CMH
> >> >> > was
> >> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> > they thought he was dead
after his plane was shot down over
> >> > Rabual.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I know some one who won the
Congressional Medal of Honor for
> >> >> >> >> arguing
> >> >> >> >> about
> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> >> baseball game.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >>   Phil Payne
> >> >> >> >>   http://www.isham-research.co.uk
> >> >> >> >>   +44 7833 654 800
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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> >
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