From: "Mark" 

The good news is nothing new, nor surprising, as one would know if one read
the Iraqi blogs, the milblogs and a variety of sources not part of the MSM.

The conflicting stats aren't surprising either. e.g. On an individual basis
any given responder may have just installed satellite tv, A/C, a generator
and a new refrigerator/freezer so he's pretty happy, but he watches the
news on that satellite and worries for the country as a whole even as he's
doing fine. That's not an unreasonable position to take.

In the bigger scheme, I've no doubt that 100% want our troops out in the
future, that'd be 100% of both Iraqis and Americans -- why the Murthas of
the world are so anxious to cut and run and screw up a successful mission
is a mystery 


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:439efd63{at}w3.nls.net...
>I didn't forget.  I knew you or another member of the doom and gloom crowd
> would seek to find that dark lining in this silver cloud.
>
> Those negative aspects show confusion and conflict in the poll.  You don't
> think ABC would create a poll not designed to guarantee some negatives
> somewhere.
>
> The good news is good news.  There is no dark lining in that silver cloud.
>
> Gary
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news:439efa2c{at}w3.nls.net...
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:439ef689$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > Unlike the bullshit reports from some here, ABC News, no friend of the
>> > Bushies and no supporter of the war, has revealed the following from
> their
>> > own polling in Iraq.
>> >
>> > 71% of Iraqis say their lives are good and they expect them to get
> better
>> > in
>> > the future.  That's higher than in any blue state in the USA by quite a
>> > lot.
>> > 74% of Iraqis want USA forces to stay until the Iraqis can maintain
>> > reasonable security on their own, and only 10% list the withdrawal of
>> > foreign troops within the next year as a "high priority".
>> >
>> > Now somebody needs to tell Burtha and the rest of the neo-surrender
>> > monkeys.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> >
>>
>> You forgot the negative aspects of the poll
>>
>> http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=nation_world&id=3717385
>> Other views, moreover, are more negative: Fewer than half, 46 percent,
>> say
>> the country is better off now than it was before the war. And half of
> Iraqis
>> now say it was wrong for U.S.-led forces to invade in spring 2003, up
>> from
>> 39 percent in 2004.
>>
>> The number of Iraqis who say things are going well in their country
> overall
>> is just 44 percent, far fewer than the 71 percent who say their own lives
>> are going well. Fifty-two percent instead say the country is doing badly.
>>
>> There's other evidence of the United States' increasing unpopularity:
>> Two-thirds now oppose the presence of U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq,
> 14
>> points higher than in February 2004. Nearly six in 10 disapprove of how
> the
>> United States has operated in Iraq since the war, and most of them
>> disapprove strongly. And nearly half of Iraqis would like to see U.S.
> forces
>> leave soon.
>>
>> Specifically, 26 percent of Iraqis say U.S. and other coalition forces
>> should "leave now" and another 19 percent say they
should go after the
>> government chosen in this week's election takes office; that adds to 45
>> percent. Roughly the other half says coalition forces should remain until
>> security is restored (31 percent), until Iraqi security forces can
>> operate
>> independently (16 percent), or longer (5 percent).
>>
>> This survey was sponsored by ABC News with partners Time, the BBC, the
>> Japanese network NHK and the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel, with
> fieldwork
>> by Oxford Research International. It consists of in-person interviews
>> with
> a
>> random national sample of 1,711 Iraqis from early October through
>> mid-November.
>>
>> There were limitations on questions in the survey because of security
>> concerns; given the sectarian violence, Iraqis were not asked their
>> religious doctrine, Sunni or Shiite. Instead this analysis looks at
>> Sunni-dominated, Shia-dominated, mixed and Kurdish regions, using
>> previous
>> data to categorize provinces.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anbar
>>
>> Attitudes in Anbar - a Sunni Arab-dominated province that's been a center
> of
>> anti-coalition sentiment - are even more extreme than views in other
>> predominately Sunni areas. (Anbar includes Fallujah and the provincial
>> capital, Ramadi.)
>>
>> Already lower than in non-Sunni areas, confidence in national
>> institutions
>> craters in Anbar: Only three in 10 of those in Anbar have confidence in
> the
>> police, a scant one in 10 expresses confidence in the new Iraqi army and
>> a
>> mere 4 percent approve of the Iraqi government's performance.
>>
>> The United States fairs even more poorly in Anbar, where a solitary 1
>> percent say the U.S.-led invasion was a good thing for Iraq, and not a
>> single respondent expresses confidence in the U.S. and U.K. occupation
>> forces.
>>
>> While last year's survey identified strong anti-American sentiment in
> Anbar,
>> the unsettled security situation may help drive the low ratings of Iraqi
>> institutions (only religious leaders are more highly rated in Anbar than
>> elsewhere). Nearly half in Anbar call instability their biggest problem -
> 17
>> points more than in other, already on-edge, Sunni areas - and just 13
>> percent say their local security situation is good. Only 28 percent
>> expect
>> security to improve.
>>
>> The political outlook, however, could improve. Nearly six in 10 Anbar
>> residents have confidence that the elections will lead to a stable
>> government. They're also more likely than other Sunnis to be interested
>> in
>> politics and to talk politics with others (more than eight in 10 in Anbar
>> say they do both). But only two in 10 Anbar residents approve of the
>> newly
>> minted constitution.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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