From: Attila 

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:12:00 -0400, stumper 
in alt.abortion with message-id
 wrote:

>Attila < wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:04:09 -0400, stumper  in
>> alt.abortion with message-id
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>> Not all things in the world are physical.
>>>> Wrong.
>>>>
>>>>> Many things are way beyond our comprehension.
>>>> Obviously true.
>>>>
>>>>> God might be be one of them.
>>>> But probably not.  Especially since you don't even know what
>>>> you mean by the term "God".
>>>>
>>>>> God might not be not something
>>>>> to be proved or even understood.
>>>> The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong
>>>> but that's the way to bet.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What if God is the universe and some more?
>>> How do we prove that the universe exists?
>>>
>>> What if God is everything there ever was,
>>> ever is, and ever will be?
>>> How do we prove that such God exists?
>>
>>
>> What if none of that is true?
>>
>
>
>It's just a hypothesis.
>So, such God exists by definition.

No.  You cannot make something from nothing by simply defining it.

>Don't forget the "and some more" part.
>That part has to be proven.
>
>Now, we can talk about what God is like.

No.  Not until a god is proven to exist.

>
>Can we say that the universe created itself?

Who knows?  Perhaps it has always existed.

>Can we say that the universe designed itself?

Why should it be designed?

>It all depends on what we mean by words
>like 'creation' and 'design', doesn't it.
>Basically, who cares!
>Next!
>
>Does the universe love itself?
>What on earth does that mean?

Nothing.

>Let's skip the anthropomorphic nonsense.
>
>Does the universe prefer life?
>Now, that seems like an interesting question.
>Does it?

You postulate an emotion on the part of an inanimate object.  I consider
that highly unlikely.

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