From: "Robert Comer" 

>Then when it turns out that person had a squirt gun full of holy
> water, the shooter is a sinful murderer under your religion?

You're adding parameters -- if I couldn't see that he had a gun, I only
suspected he did, yes, if I shot him I'd be a murderer.  If I saw that
"gun" of his and it looked like a real gun, then it would be self
defense.

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Bob Comer


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
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> So if you reasonably believe a person has a gun and is about to murder
> your
> 6 month old baby, and if you act on that belief by shooting and killing
> that
> person.  Then when it turns out that person had a squirt gun full of holy
> water, the shooter is a sinful murderer under your religion?
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
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>> > It depends on what you reasonably believed at the time you acted.  Its
> not
>> > an absolute.
>>
>> It's absolute to me.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
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>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
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>> > It depends on what you reasonably believed at the time you acted.  Its
> not
>> > an absolute.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
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>> >> > That is not a bar to self defense.
>> >>
>> >> Of course, but if you kill only on suspicion and you're wrong, that
>> >> definitely breaks that commandment.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bob Comer
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>> >>
>> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
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>> >> > That is not a bar to self defense.
>> >> >
>> >> > Gary
>> >> >
>> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
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>> >> >> Thou shall not kill...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Bob Comer
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
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>> >> >> > Au contraire, Even more so when it might
involve USA citizens
>> >> >> > getting
>> >> >> > killed.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in
>> >> >> > message
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>> >> >> >> Not when it involves killing.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Bob Comer
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>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:439db669$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> > Better safe than sorry.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in
>> >> >> >> > message
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>> >> >> >> >> You don't know they're not.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
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>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
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>> >> >> >> >> > You don't know they are imaginary.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> > message
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>> >> >> >> >> >> Imaginary WMD's don't
mean that they are there either.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> "Gary
Britt"  wrote in message
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>> >> >> >> >> >> > None found
doesn't mean none there.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > "Robert
Comer"  wrote
> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Yes,
and you know this how?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> No WMD's of course.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Gary
Britt"  wrote in
> message
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Yes,
and you know this how?  How many WMD's have you
>> > looked
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> >> >> > land
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > area as
large as California, and that doesn't count
> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > land
>> >> >> > area
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Syria
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > where
they may have gone and where you aren't allowed
> to
>> >> > look
>> >> >> > at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > all.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Gary
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"Robert Comer"  wrote in
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> They got the WMD well hid.
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Dream on. They would have been found by now.
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
"Gary Britt"  wrote in
>> > message
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> They got the WMD well hid.  Democrap traitor and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > US
>> >> > senator
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Warner
>> >> >> >> >> >> > went
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> Syria and Saudi Arabia (at a time when he was the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > head
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > senate
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> intelligence committee) and told Syria and Saudi
>> > Arabia
>> >> >> >> >> > (supporters
>> >> >> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> Hussein) that Bush was going to invade and they
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > should
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > prepare.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Relying
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> upon the advice of this well connected democrap
>> > traitor,
>> >> >> >> > convoys
>> >> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > trucks
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> began moving lots of something into Syria during
> the
>> > few
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > months
>> >> >> >> >> >> > before
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the
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> invasion.
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Gary
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> "Robert Comer"  wrote in
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>> > Sanctions weren't working at all,
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>> They just got rid of the WMD's and since that was
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> > aim
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I
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>> don't
>> >> >> >> >> >> > see
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > how
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>> you could say they didn't work.
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>> Bob Comer
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>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in
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>> > Sanctions weren't working at all, and had we
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > not
>> > gone
>> >> > in
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>> > the
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>> > entirely
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>> > corrupt and bought UN would have dissolved the
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>> > sanctions.
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>> > Gary
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>> > "Geo"  wrote in message
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>> >> "Gary Britt" 
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>> >> > Iraq war was forced on us by Hussein's
> failure
>> > to
>> >> >> > comply
>> >> >> >> >> > with
>> >> >> >> >> >> > UN
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>> >> > orders;
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>> >> You mean to produce evidence that 50,000
> gallons
>> > of
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>> >> anthrax
>> >> >> >> >> > had
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>> >> been
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>> >> destroyed, the same 50,000 gallons that we
> still
>> >> > can't
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>> >> find
>> >> >> >> >> > even
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>> >> years of completely free run of the place?
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>> >> Sanctions were working just fine, there was no
>> > need
>> >> > to
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