From: stumper 

Ray Fischer wrote:
> stumper   wrote:
>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>>>>> Do you exist because you think?
>>>>>>> I did philosophy 101 in college a couple of
decades ago.  get back to
>>>>>>> us when you've learned how little you know.
>>>>>> I read philosophy for seven years.
>>>>> Ah, so you're a dishonest asshole who uses philosophy just to
>>>>> argue, with no regard for the truth whatever.
>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you know whether the universe exists or not?
>>>>> 1st Meditations.
>>>> Philosophy is not science.
>>> I didn't say it is.
>>>
>>>> Religion is not science.
>>> Likewise.
>>>
>>>> Science is not good enough for philosophy.
>>> LOL!
>>>
>>>> Science is not good enough for religion.
>>> Says the wanker using science to communicate with people.
>> You are sadly mistaken.
>
> Not usually and not this time, wanker.
>
>> I have been doing philosophy all along.
>
>     M: (Knock)
>     A:   Come in.
>     M:   Ah, Is this the right room for an argument?
>     A:   I told you once.
>     M:   No you haven't.
>     A:   Yes I have.
>     M:   When?
>     A:    Just now.
>     M:   No you didn't.
>     A:   Yes I did.
>     M:  You didn't
>     A:   I did!
>     M:  You didn't!
>     A:   I'm telling you I did!
>     M:  You did not!!
>     A:   Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or
>     the full half hour?
>     M:  Oh, just the five minutes.
>     A:   Ah, thank you. Anyway, I did.
>     M:  You most certainly did not.
>     A:   Look, let's get this thing clear; I quite definitely told you.
>     M:  No you did not.
>     A:   Yes I did.
>     M:   No you didn't.
>     A:   Yes I did.
>     M:   No you didn't.
>     A:   Yes I did.
>     M:   No you didn't.
>     A:   Yes I did.
>     M:  You didn't.
>     A:   Did.
>     M:  Oh look, this isn't an argument.
>     A:   Yes it is.
>     M:   No it isn't. It's just contradiction.
>     A:   No it isn't.
>     M:  It is!
>     A:   It is not.
>     M:  Look, you just contradicted me.
>     A:   I did not.
>     M:  Oh you did!!
>     A:   No, no, no.
>     M:  You did just then.
>     A:   Nonsense!
>     M:  Oh, this is futile!
>     A:   No it isn't.
>     M:  I came here for a good argument.
>     A:   No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
>     M:  An argument isn't just contradiction.
>     A:   It can be.
>     M:  No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements
>     intended to establish a proposition.
>     A:   No it isn't.
>     M:  Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
>     A:   Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
>     M:  Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
>     A:   Yes it is!
>     M:   No it isn't!
>
>     A:   Yes it is!
>     M:  Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the
>     automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
>     (short pause)
>     A:  No it isn't.
>     M:  It is.
>     A:  Not at all.
>     M:  Now look.
>     A: (Rings bell)  Good Morning.
>     M:  What?
>     A:   That's it. Good morning.
>     M:   I was just getting interested.
>     A:   Sorry, the five minutes is up.
>     M:  That was never five minutes!
>     A:   I'm afraid it was.
>     M:  It wasn't.
>     Pause
>     A:   I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue anymore.
>     M:  What?!
>     A:   If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another
>     five minutes.
>     M:  Yes, but that was never five minutes, just now. Oh come on!
>     A:  (Hums)
>     M:  Look, this is ridiculous.
>     A:   I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!
>     M:  Oh, all right.
>     (pays money)
>     A:   Thank you.
>     short pause
>     M:  Well?
>     A:   Well what?
>     M:   That wasn't really five minutes, just now.
>     A:    I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.
>     M:   I just paid!
>     A:   No you didn't.
>     M:   I DID!
>     A:   No you didn't.
>     M:  Look, I don't want to argue about that.
>     A:  Well, you didn't pay.
>     M:  Aha. If I didn't pay, why are you arguing? I Got you!
>     A:   No you haven't.
>     M:  Yes I have. If you're arguing, I must have paid.
>     A:   Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.
>     M:  Oh I've had enough of this.
>     A:   No you haven't.
>     M:  Oh Shut up.
>


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