From: "Randy H" 

Shades of an old Sopranos espisode, where Tony makes mention of having his
Escalade's OnStar service neuetered.

"Mark"  wrote in message
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> You're right Adam, not sure about the listening part, but I did read where
> they can turn that tracking on even if the cell phone is off and/or
> prevent it from being turned off in reality, even if you think you turned
> it off.
>
> "Adam"  wrote in message
> news:43ab3218$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Dave Ings wrote:
>>
>>> Irrelevant. It's the coordinated logging analysis of multiple data
>>> sources that is so objectionable, not whether the local 7-11 or bank has
>>> crappy video camera installed.
>>>
>>
>> Oh indeed & that's not just about cameras, it's about you the single
>> individual & a government. You can link up all sorts of data sources
>> which are government property (e.g. tax, medical,criminal & financial
>> information).
>>
>> They then have the power to demand records from private institutions
>> (e.g. cctv from shopping centers or bank records or phone information).
>>
>>> Let's just finish the job and install video feeds in every private
>>> dwelling. After all, domestic violence is a serious problem and the home
>>> is a dangerous place (falling down stairs etc). Video feeds would allow
>>> the prompt dispatch of police and/or ambulance services as needed,
>>> saving countless lives. :-)
>>
>> The phone service has always been capable of listening into fixed line
>> phones even where the phone is on the hook.
>>
>> It would not surprise me to find a similar capability wrt mobile phones.
>>
>> So they can listen in if required.
>>
>> Adam
>
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