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to: Dave Ings
from: Gary Britt
date: 2005-12-25 14:36:24
subject: Re: Now it`s Data Mining without court approval

From: "Gary Britt" 

I agree that collating the data for any purpose would be troublesome.  I
disagree that collating in order to DETECT patterns that indicate possible
enemy action within our borders at a time of war to be troublesome.  If
they were attempting to detect who is a republican I'd be concerned.  If
they were like Hilary Clinton and her illegal FBI files, I would be
concerned. Fortunately, this is not the current situation.

Gary

"Dave Ings"  wrote in message
news:43aeb35c{at}w3.nls.net...
> IMHO this used to be a valid argument (shouting a message). I'm not so
sure
> anymore. What's changed is that it's now possible to collect, collate and
> analyze the shouting of the entire country. Surely that changes things?
The
> government has powers of data collection undreamed of 50 years ago. And I
> don't trust the government to do the right thing.
>
> It's similar to what I expressed to Adam: I don't care about the single
> security camera at the local bank. I do object vigorously to the
government
> collating the data generated by tens of thousands of cameras nation-wide.
> --
> Regards,
> Dave Ings,
> Toronto, Canada
>
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> news:43ae3e7b{at}w3.nls.net...
> >
> > Lastly, there is no reasonable expectation of privacy on cell phone or
> > email
> > traffic since that information can be monitored by almost anyone who
cares
> > to get a scanner from Radio Shack or various software tools to inspect
> > packets as they wiz by publicly on the internet.  Its not searching if
you
> > stand on a chair and shout a message to someone else 100 yards away,
> > expecting it to be relayed along the way by several others.
>
>

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