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echo: r_catholic
to: stumper
from: Ray Fischer
date: 2007-03-26 00:01:02
subject: Re: Does the universe prefer life?

From: rfischer{at}sonic.net (Ray Fischer)

stumper   wrote:
>Ray Fischer wrote:
>> stumper   wrote:
>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:04:09 -0400,
stumper  in
>>>>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id
>>>>>>>>
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> stumper 
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Not all things in the world
are physical.
>>>>>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Many things are way beyond our
comprehension.
>>>>>>>>>> Obviously true.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> God might be be one of them.
>>>>>>>>>> But probably not.  Especially
since you don't even know what
>>>>>>>>>> you mean by the term "God".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> God might not be not something
>>>>>>>>>>> to be proved or even understood.
>>>>>>>>>> The race is not always to the
swift nor the battle to the strong
>>>>>>>>>> but that's the way to bet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What if God is the universe and some more?
>>>>>>>>> How do we prove that the universe exists?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What if God is everything there ever was,
>>>>>>>>> ever is, and ever will be?
>>>>>>>>> How do we prove that such God exists?
>>>>>>>> What if none of that is true?
>>>>>>> It's just a hypothesis.
>>>>>>> So, such God exists by definition.
>>>>>> Logical fallacy: Assuming the conclusion.
>>>>> What makes you think you exist?
>>>> 1st Meditations.
>>> What makes you think the universe exists?
>>
>> I don't care if it exists, wanker.  It's a useful working hypothesis
>> to assume that it does.
>
>Exactly!
>
>What makes you think your self exists?

1st Meditations.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer{at}sonic.net

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