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echo: aust_c_here
to: John Gardeniers
from: Paul Edwards
date: 1996-09-06 13:41:40
subject: Re: Regs & Zmodem

PE> It is not part of the ISO C standard.  They aren't part of the ANSI C
PE> standard either...

PE> And I bet it isn't in K&R C either.  BFN.  Paul.

JG> I can't say for sure if it was in the *final* draft of the C
JG> specs.  but according to Kerrnigan (or was it Ritchie?) it most
JG> certainly was in the *original* draft.

Please quote that.  I have K&R 2, and have access to K&R 1, so can
verify any quote.

JG> The way I view these things is quite simple: Later standards, in
JG> this case ANSI and ISO, should only refine and add to the original
JG> specs, NOT alter them beyond recognition.  

With a statement like that, "beyond recognition" and 

JG> Basic has gone through
JG> the same bastardisation.  

"barstardized" I presume you are able to quote 5-10 instances
where the ISO C standard has completely broken K&R C code.  Could you
therefor name 5-10 such occurrences (preferably major ones too).

JG> I further believe that ISO should stick to
JG> checking the calibration of kitchen scales.  They have no business
JG> sticking their weights and measures noses into programming language
JG> specifications.  (There!  I said it!)

Which bit of the ISO C standard don't you like.  I reckon they've done an
absolutely brilliant job.  Actually, I think ANSI did most of the work, ISO
is basically a copy of the ANSI one.

PE> FREQ RZSZPE.ZIP, PDPZM*.* and there's a couple more that may be of
PE> interest, FREQ FILES to find them for yourself, all from 3:711/934.

JG> Thanks, as it happens I aquired RZSZ recently.  

That won't compile on MSDOS or OS/2 as-is, you need RZSZPE.ZIP for that.

JG> If only FREQing
JG> was available to most of us. Unfortunately it's not. :(

It is.  Dial 02-9436-1785 and download DEVIL*.* from file area 1. BFN.  Paul.
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