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In article , John Goodall
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-> John Goodall wrote:
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->>>> John Goodall wrote:
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->>>> The largest number of child abusers are straight men......
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->>> Queers abuse children at rates disproportionately higher than their
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->>> 1/3 of pedos are queers even though they make up only 1% of the
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->> Exactly! Well put and irrefutably true.
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->     Naturally you have a citation from the recent, peer reviewed
-> scientific literature to back up your assertion?
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-Tell you what, you prove I am wrong.  No faggot site stats please.
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A review of empirical studies conducted as the University of California
(follows).


Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation


Historically, lynchings of Black men who were falsely accused of raping
White women have been common. And Jews in the Middle Ages were accused of
murdering Christian babies in ritual sacrifices. In a similar
fashion, gay people are often portrayed as a threat to society's most
vulnerable members.

When Anita Bryant campaigned successfully in 1977 to repeal a Dade County
(FL) ordinance prohibiting anti-gay discrimination, she named her
organization "Save Our Children," and warned that "a particularly
deviant-minded [gay] teacher could sexually molest children"
(Bryant, 1977, p. 114).

The number of Americans who believe the accusation that gay men and women
are child molesters appears to be decreasing. For example, Gallup poll
data i n 1992 indicated that 41% of Americans would allow gay
people to be elementary school teachers, compared to 27% in 1977
(Colasanto, 1989). Nevertheless, many of the remaining 59% probably
continued to accept the stereotype.

Whenever we evaluate research on child molestation, our task is
complicated by several problems. One problem involves sampling. Most
studies in this area have been conducted only with convicted perpetrators,
so they exclude child molesters who were not prosecuted or convicted. As a
result, any profile that we try to construct of child molesters may not
necessarily describe molesters who have not been caught.

A second problem concerns terminology. Sexual abuse of male children by
adult men1 is often referred to as "homosexual molestation," which implies
that the perpetrator is himself gay or has a homosexual
orientation.

Usually, however, the adjectives "homosexual" and
"heterosexual" really
refer to the victim's gender in relation to that of the perpetrator, not
to the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

The distinction between gender of victim and sexual orientation of
perpetrator is important because many child molesters have never developed
the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men
or women. Recognizing this fact, Finkelhor and Araji (1986) proposedthat
discussions of the sexual attractions of perpetrators should be
conceptualized along a continuum ranging in degrees from exclusive
interest in children to exclusive interest in adult partners.

Similarly, Groth and Birnbaum (1978) categorized child molesters as either
fixated or regressed (see also Groth, Hobson, & Gary, 1982). Fixated
offenders never developed an adult sexual orientation of any sort, whereas
regressed molesters have done so. Thus, regressed molesters can be adult
homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals. But it is meaningless to speak
of fixated molesters in these terms they are attracted to children, not to
men or women.

Using this distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (1978) found that none of the
175 adult males in their sample all of whom were convicted in
Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child had an exclusively
homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 of the men (47%) were classified
as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult
heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult
bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that "in their
adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as
with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their
preference for women....There were no men who were primarily sexually
attracted to other adult males..." (p.180).

Another researcher took a different perspective. Dr. Carole Jenny reviewed
352 medical charts, representing all of the sexually abused children seen
in the emergency room or child abuse clinic of a Denver children'shospital
during a one-year period (from July 1, 1991 to June 30,1992). The molester
was a gay or lesbian adult in only 2 of the 269 casesin which an adult
molester could be identified (less than 1% of the cases).

Do Any Studies Show That Homosexuals Are More Likely To Molest Children?

One individual has claimed to have data that prove homosexuals to be child
molesters at a higher rate than heterosexuals. In a 1985 article published
in Psychological Reports, Paul Cameron purported to review published data
to answer the question, "Do those who commit homosexual acts
disproportionately incorporate children into their sexual practices?" (p.
1227). He concluded that "at least one-third of the sexual attacks upon
youth are homosexual" (p. 1228) and that "those who are bi- to homosexual
are proportionately much more apt to molest youth" than are heterosexuals
(p. 1231).

Cameron's findings are based on his assumption that all male-male
molestations were committed by homosexuals. Moreover, a careful reading of
Cameron's paper reveals several false statements about the literature he
claimed to have reviewed.

For example, he cited the Groth and Birnbaum (1978) study mentioned
previously as evidencing a 3 2 ratio of "heterosexual" (i.e., female
victim) to "homosexual" (i.e., male victim) molestations, and he noted
that "54% of all the molestations in this study were performed by bisexual
or homosexual practitioners" (p. 1231). However, Groth and Birnbaum
reported that none of the men in their sample had an exclusively
homosexual adult sexual orientation, and that none of the 22 bisexual men
were more attracted to adult males than to adult females. Cameron's 54%
statistic does not  appear anywhere in the Groth and Birnbaum (1978)
article, nor does Cameron explain its derivation.

It also is noteworthy that, although Cameron assumed that all male-male
molestations were committed by homosexuals, he assumed that not all
male-female molestations were committed by heterosexuals. He
incorporated a "bisexual correction" into his data manipulations to
increase further his estimate of the risk posed to children by
homosexual/bisexual men. In the latter half of his paper, Cameron
considered whether
"homosexual teachers have more frequent sexual interaction with their
pupils" (p. 1231). Based on 30 instances of sexual contact between a
teacher and pupil reported in ten different sources published between 1920
and 1982, Cameron concluded that "a pupil would appear about 90 times more
likely to
be sexually assaulted by a homosexual practitioner" (p. 1232); the ratio
rose to 100 times when Cameron added his bisexual correction.

This ratio is meaningless because no data were obtained concerning the
actual sexual orientation of the teachers involved; as before, Cameron
assumed that male-male contacts were perpetrated by homosexuals.
Furthermore, Cameron's rationale for selecting particular sources appears
to have been completely arbitrary. He described no systematic method for
reviewing the literature, and apparently never reviewed the
voluminous literature on the sexual development of children and
adolescents. His final choice of sources appears to have slanted his
findings toward what Cameron described as "the relative absence in the
scientific literature of heterosexual teacher-pupil sexual events coupled
with persistent, albeit infrequent, homosexual teacher-pupil sexual
interactions" (p. 1232).


A subsequent paper by Cameron and others (Cameron, Proctor, Coburn, Forde,
Larson, & Cameron, 1986)described data collected in a door-to-door survey
in seven U.S. cities and towns, and generally repeated the conclusions
reached in Cameron (1985). As before, male-male sexual assaults were
referredto as  "homosexual" molestations (e.g., Abstract, p.327) and the
perpetrators' sexual orientation apparently was not assessed.

This study also suffers from severe methodological problems The sampling
methods were not adequately described; the representativeness of the
sample is highly doubtful; the locations for data collection (Omaha
[NE], Los Angeles [CA], Denver [CO], Washington [DC], Louisville [state
not specified], Bennett [NE], and Rochester [NY]) appear to have been
selected solely on the basis of convenience (see Brown & Cole, 1985, for a
detailed critique). In addition, because the response rate appears to have
been unacceptably low, the sample does not permit generalizations from the
data to any larger population

In summary, the findings reported in the papers by Cameron et al. cannot
be considered valid. The work is too methodologically flawed.

Conclusion

The empirical research on adult sexual orientation and molestation of
children does not show that gay men are any more likely than heterosexual
men to molest children. This is not to suggest that molestations of
children by adult homosexual men never occur. They do. But molesting
children has nothing to do with whether a man is heterosexual or
homosexual.

Note

1. Sexual abuse by women appears to be uncommon. It has most often been
documented in cases of a female accomplice assisting a male perpetrator in
procuring victims, or an adult woman seducing a young male (Erickson,
Walbek, & Seely, 1988; Finkelhor, 1984; Johnson & Shrier, 1987). Perhaps
it is not surprising, therefore, that the child molester stereotype is
applied more often to gay men than to lesbians.

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