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to: Rich Gauszka
from: Gary Britt
date: 2005-12-27 11:38:36
subject: Re: Now it`s Data Mining without court approval

From: "Gary Britt" 

Only if there is a declaration of war as in this case.

Gary

"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
news:43b163ae$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> With your definition the United States has never been at peace.
>
>
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> news:43b162d1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > The war is against those who seek to attack the USA by means of
terrorism.
> > Come on Bob don't be so deliberately obtuse.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
> > news:43b156eb{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> Sorry, no, look up the definition of terror.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bob Comer
> >>
> >>
> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
> >> news:43b145d5$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> > The war on terrorism *IS* a war on a real physical enemy not a
concept.
> >> >
> >> > Gary
> >> >
> >> > "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
> >> > news:43b13397{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> You can't have a war on a concept, that could never
work because you
> >> >> can't
> >> >> win against a concept, that's the problem.  You can
have a war on a
> >> > country
> >> >> or a group of people, like Al Qaeda, Taliban, or Iraq...
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Bob Comer
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
> >> >> news:43b0b66c$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> > Not according to the Congress and about 60% or
more of the
American
> >> >> > people.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
> >> >> > news:43b0ae59$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> > It isn't a war.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Neither is the war on terror.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Bob Comer
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:43b0a687$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> > It isn't a war.  Neither is the
pursuit of an ordinary
murderer,
> >> >> >> > even
> >> >> >> > though
> >> >> >> > the murderer is a killer.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:43b056bd$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> > We aren't discussing
criminals killing criminals and police
> >> > killing
> >> >> >> >> > criminals.  You're changing
subjects.  We were discussing
> > whether
> >> >> >> >> > its
> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> >> > war
> >> >> >> >> > or not, and it isn't a military war.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The "War on drugs" is
all I was talking about, collateral
damage
> >> >> > counts.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > Terrorists aren't using
napalming because of some heartfelt
> >> > ethical
> >> >> >> >> > concern
> >> >> >> >> > over that particular method
of clearing a battlefield, so to
> > make
> >> >> > such
> >> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> >> > statement reveals more about
errors in your thinking versus
us
> > or
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > terrorists.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> LOL!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:43b03b9e{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> > We aren't discussing
criminals killing criminals and police
> >> > killing
> >> >> >> >> > criminals.  You're changing
subjects.  We were discussing
> > whether
> >> >> >> >> > its
> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> >> > war
> >> >> >> >> > or not, and it isn't a military war.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Terrorists aren't using
napalming because of some heartfelt
> >> > ethical
> >> >> >> >> > concern
> >> >> >> >> > over that particular method
of clearing a battlefield, so to
> > make
> >> >> > such
> >> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> >> > statement reveals more about
errors in your thinking versus
us
> > or
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > terrorists.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> > news:43b036e6{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> >> > When they start
napalming fields and people, then its a
> >> >> >> >> >> > war.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> You'd be surprised how
many are killed every year in the
drug
> >> >> > trade --
> >> >> >> >> >> I'd
> >> >> >> >> >> bet more than terrorism.
Terrorists never napalmed anyone
yet
> >> > btw,
> >> >> >> > that's
> >> >> >> >> >> our specialty. :|
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> Bob Comer
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:43b0202e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> >> > When they start
napalming fields and people, then its a
> >> >> >> >> >> > war.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Robert
Comer"  wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >> > news:43af989e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > The war on
drugs isn't yet a military conflict.  It
> > remains
> >> > a
> >> >> > law
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > enforcement
issue, so not the same as a real war.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> You do know that
the military has been in on the war on
> >> >> >> >> >> >> drugs,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't
> >> >> >> >> > you
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Gary?  The
national guard has been active for many years
> >> > looking
> >> >> >> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> >> > growing
> >> >> >> >> >> >> pot, not to
mention the fighter jet scrambles for  drug
> >> > running
> >> >> >> > planes
> >> >> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> the coast guard
doing the same on the water...
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> - Bob Comer
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Gary
Britt"  wrote in
message
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
news:43ae8245{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > The war on
drugs isn't yet a military conflict.  It
> > remains
> >> > a
> >> >> > law
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > enforcement
issue, so not the same as a real war.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
"Geo"  wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> > news:43ae4f98$2{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> does
that make it ok to use the same reasoning for
the
> > war
> >> > on
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> drugs?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Geo.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
"Gary Britt"  wrote in
> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
news:43ae3c2a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
The war time threats we face make things different.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
Why surprised?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
"Dave Ings"  wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
news:43ae0c3c{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> Bush may be the President with a capital P, but
at
> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > end
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > of
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> > day
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> he's
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> just a career politician, which IMHO means he is
> > more
> >> > or
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > less
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
untrustworthy
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> and should have parental supervision on sensitive
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> matters.
> >> >> >> > You
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > seem
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > have
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> a great amount of faith in him, which all things
> >> >> > considered
> >> >> >> >> >> > surprises
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > me
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > bit.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> And yes I would offer up the same opinion of
> > Clinton.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > A
> >> >> >> > little
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> skepticism
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> goes a long way, sunshine is the best
disinfectant,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > etc
> >> >> > etc.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > --
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> Regards,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> Dave Ings,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> Toronto, Canada
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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> > As judge Posner said, the President would be
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> > had
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> > NOT
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