From: stumper 

Syd wrote:
> On Mar 25, 10:36 am, stumper  wrote:
>> Syd wrote:
>>> On Mar 24, 8:16 pm, stumper  wrote:
>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 24, 11:29 am, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mar 23, 4:58 pm, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Syd M. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 23, 4:35 pm, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Syd M. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> For most unsophisticated people,
>>>>>>>>>>>> atheism is just another
belief system like theism.
>>>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any faith in the
scientific method?
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>>>> No faith is requared, Stupir.
>>>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>>>> Do you trust the scientific method?
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>> More then I trust a "revealed religeon".
>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>> Wonderful.
>>>>>> To do what?
>>>>>> Everything?
>>>>>> Do you trust the scientific method
>>>>>> in figuring out how to distribute wealth?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>> What the hell are you mubling about?
>>>>> PDW
>>>> There are many problems in the world
>>>> that cannot be solved by the scientific method.
>>>> It's useless in matters of value judgment.
>>>> The matter of God is probably one of them.
>>>> God's existence is not a matter of physical fact.
>>>> --
>>>> ~Stumper
>>> Cutting and pasting a reply does not make that reply any more useful,
>>> Stuper..
>>> PDW
>> How do you know that the universe exists?
>> How do you go about proving its existence?
>>
>> --
>> ~Stumper
>
> Well, if I stub my toe on it, it's real.
> What do you do to test reality?
>
> PDW
>

If many people say they believe in God, that's good enough for me.

I would say, "Whatever!"

If they try to kill me in the name of God, I would probably try to figure
out what God is instead of denying its existence.

I would ask:

In what sense does God exist for you? Care to tell me how God exists?


--
~Stumper

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