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to: Mark
from: John Beckett
date: 2007-04-25 19:14:54
subject: Re: 2 USD 4 1 UKL

From: John Beckett 

Yes - there are many problems to resolve. I have long been a Malthusian,
and frankly I don't see how everyone using 20% less energy matters if there
are 30% more of us.

John

"Mark"  wrote in message
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> John, even though I doubt very strongly (in fact I'm sure there isn't) there
> is any benefit to implementing the limits dictated by the current hysteria
> about CO2; I'd still not have any real problem with the meddling if it were
> to be equal on a world-wide basis.
>
> Anything other than cooperation among all countries is a plan that will be
> rife with unintended consequences. So far, and I'm sure there are plenty
> more:
>
> -- We have Mexicans protesting the high cost of tortillas because the
> traders have driven up the price of corn in anticipation of burning it in
> Hummers
>
> -- We have Germans complaining that their beer is going up in price because
> Barley isn't profitable enough to grow in the face of more lucrative
> bio-fuel crops
>
> -- We have millions upon millions of Westerners patting themselves on the
> back for buying curly-cue CFL bulbs in exponentially increasing numbers,
> which is causing the manufacturer that has no limits on anything at all (no
> minimum wage, no pollution, no nothing) ramping up coal plants as fast as
> you can compare the electricity use of Edison vs. Mao to meet the new
> "responsible" demand for "energy efficiency" and
"destroying" the planet
> even as we pretend to save it 23w vs. 60w at a time (or one Cheryl square a
> day _
>
> Until this hysteria generates a comprehensive worldwide initiative that
> makes sense (even if it makes no sense to do it at all), it's potentially
> more harmful than we can imagine -- and since we're in the middle of world
> war against cave dwellers that live on roasted salamanders via rocks heated
> by whatever dung is handy, we'd be better served to win that war first --
> because if we don't the rest is pointless.

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