From: Robert Comer 

He's doing more than parroting Moore, he has recent facts to back him up.

--
Bob Comer


On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:55:59 -0400, "Mark"
 wrote:

>Well, Bob, you think Iacocca sounds like a realist, yet he merely parrots
>Moore, therefore you defacto have bought into Moore's propaganda. the Jules link was to what Pravda puts out as reality, a dangerous thing for
>our future, don't you think?>
>
>Eh, but this is just way too much of Deja Vu thing for me to get into again:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWKdokcvM7A
>
>"Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
>news:0s73235gu6ujc3n30qimgmjvudvveo5pnm{at}4ax.com...
>> >Well then Bob, here's another interesting factual account that you're
>> >likely
>>>to buy into hook, line and sinker as well:
>>>
>>>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/14/the-truth-at-last/
>>
>> Not a chance, I don't read blogs for anything but technical issues,
>> everyone doing them has their own agendas or they just plainly think
>> too much of themselves.
>>
>>>But, in the meantime, remember that Iacocca is merely parroting Moore's
>>>propaganda almost verbatim, as has been handily discredited the
best here:
>>>
>>>http://www.eppc.org/publications/pubID.2189/pub_detail.asp
>>
>> Oh yuck, that looks just as bad as a blog.
>>
>>>But as I said, this is all so old and moldy that I'm perfectly willing to
>>>let you churn all the stuff you've bitten off around in your mind to your
>>>hearts content. >>all
>>>over and over and over again>
>>
>> You can't win.
>>
>> Oh, and I didn't watch Moore's film, nor treat anything from Moore as
>> anything better than what bloggers put out.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:41:51 -0400, "Mark"
 wrote:
>>
>>>Well then Bob, here's another interesting factual account that you're
>>>likely
>>>to buy into hook, line and sinker as well:
>>>
>>>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/14/the-truth-at-last/
>>>
>>>But, in the meantime, remember that Iacocca is merely parroting Moore's
>>>propaganda almost verbatim, as has been handily discredited the
best here:
>>>
>>>http://www.eppc.org/publications/pubID.2189/pub_detail.asp
>>>
>>>But as I said, this is all so old and moldy that I'm perfectly willing to
>>>let you churn all the stuff you've bitten off around in your mind to your
>>>hearts content. >>all
>>>over and over and over again>
>>>
>>>"Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>>>news:uo6323pdp91j3irf36v082t49nc1lkqupk{at}4ax.com...
>>>> There's no choice in the matter about what I believe,
there's too much
>>>> evidence.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:18:00 -0400, "Mark"
 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Eh. All of his happy horseshit has been argued against,
and years ago --
>>>>>continue to believe it if you want. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>>>>>news:e8v223de7rdvnlnqucvgnlh695jhf3av0q{at}4ax.com...
>>>>>> Sounds like he's a realist to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:08:09 -0400,
"Mark"  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sounds like Lee "bail me out" Iacocca
is in full-blown Bush
>>>>>>>Derangement
>>>>>>>Syndrome -- a shame.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"John Beamish"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:op.tqsvcasdm6tn4t{at}dellblack.phub.net.cable.rogers.com...
>>>>>>>>
http://www.bordersstores.com/features/feature.jsp?file=wherehaveallthe
leadersgone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On September 11, 2001, we needed a strong
leader more than any other
>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>> in our history. We needed a steady hand to
guide us out of the
>>>>>>>> ashes.
>>>>>>>> Where was George Bush? He was reading a
story about a pet goat to
>>>>>>>> kids
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> Florida when he heard about the attacks.
He kept sitting there for
>>>>>>>> twenty
>>>>>>>> minutes with a baffled look on his face.
It's all on tape. You can
>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> for yourself. Then, instead of taking the
quickest route back to
>>>>>>>> Washington and immediately going on the
air to reassure the panicked
>>>>>>>> people of this country, he decided it
wasn't safe to return to the
>>>>>>>> White
>>>>>>>> House. He basically went into hiding for
the day-and he told Vice
>>>>>>>> President Dick Cheney to stay put in his
bunker. We were all frozen
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> front of our TVs, scared out of our wits,
waiting for our leaders to
>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>> us that we were going to be okay, and
there was nobody home. It took
>>>>>>>> Bush
>>>>>>>> a couple of days to get his bearings and
devise the right photo op
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> Ground Zero.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That was George Bush's moment of truth,
and he was paralyzed. And
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>> he do when he'd regained his composure? He
led us down the road to
>>>>>>>> Iraq-a
>>>>>>>> road his own father had considered
disastrous when he was President.
>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>> Bush didn't listen to Daddy. He listened
to a higher father. He
>>>>>>>> prides
>>>>>>>> himself on being faith based, not reality
based. If that doesn't
>>>>>>>> scare
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> crap out of you, I don't know what will.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A Hell of a Mess
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So here's where we stand. We're immersed
in a bloody war with no
>>>>>>>> plan
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> winning and no plan for leaving. We're
running the biggest deficit
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> history of the country. We're losing the
manufacturing edge to Asia,
>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>> our once-great companies are getting
slaughtered by health care
>>>>>>>> costs.
>>>>>>>> Gas
>>>>>>>> prices are skyrocketing, and nobody in
power has a coherent energy
>>>>>>>> policy.
>>>>>>>> Our schools are in trouble. Our borders
are like sieves. The middle
>>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>>> is being squeezed every which way. These
are times that cry out for
>>>>>>>> leadership.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But when you look around, you've got to
ask: "Where have all the
>>>>>>>> leaders
>>>>>>>> gone?" Where are the curious,
creative communicators? Where are the
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> of character, courage, conviction,
competence, and common sense? I
>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> a sucker for alliteration, but I think you
get the point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>

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