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from: Adam
date: 2007-04-21 08:45:28
subject: Re: EU agrees to penalties for racism and xenophobia

From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

Mark wrote:
> Speaking of the Armenians Adam, just caught this on the same subject:
> http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2007_04_15-2007_04_21.shtml#1177104267
> Historians Getting Into Legal Trouble
>

Oh indeed. It's crackpot. I loath the whole set of holocaust denial laws.
OK fair enough in those places wot are responsible (i.e. der deutche volk
in Germany & Austria) but EU wide is basically the Germans/Austrians
trying to spread the blame by implication.

Holocaust denial is like creationism, nutty & based on belief but.....criminal?

However....it's not just "holocaust denial" oh no this goes
further to "genocide denial".......so now you're into "I get
to define wot is a genocide & you get to go to jail if you
disagree".

Effing mad.

Adam






>
> "Ad"  wrote in message
> news:462851ea{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Mark wrote:
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070419/wl_afp/eujusticeracism
>>> LUXEMBOURG (AFP) - The European Union on Thursday made inciting racism
>>> and xenophobia crimes throughout its 27 member states in a landmark
>>> decision tempered by caveats to appease free speech concerns. The new
>>> deal specifies one- to three-year prison terms be available for
>>> incitement to violence or hatred "against a group of
persons or a member
>>> of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent
>>> or national or ethnic origin".
>>>
>>> That could include the sending of "tracts, pictures or other
>>> material."...
>>>
>>> ====
>>>
>>> It's over for the EU (I wonder if the UK will be smart enough
to withdraw
>>> from the insanity?), let's hope the US isn't next, but I'm not
>>> optimistic. >> the blind>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Yup it's PC gone mad. e.g. there's also a part making genocide denial a
>> crime.
>>
>> Ooooookkkkk so.....lt's have a laugh & consider the fate of
the Armenians
>> in 1918.....
>>
>> It's the Germans. They've always had a problem with free speech.
>>
>> Adam
>
>

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