From: stumper 

Attila < wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:12:00 -0400, stumper  in
> alt.abortion with message-id
>  wrote:
>
>> Attila < wrote:
>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:04:09 -0400, stumper
 in
>>> alt.abortion with message-id
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>>> Not all things in the world are physical.
>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Many things are way beyond our comprehension.
>>>>> Obviously true.
>>>>>
>>>>>> God might be be one of them.
>>>>> But probably not.  Especially since you don't even know what
>>>>> you mean by the term "God".
>>>>>
>>>>>> God might not be not something
>>>>>> to be proved or even understood.
>>>>> The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong
>>>>> but that's the way to bet.
>>>>>
>>>> What if God is the universe and some more?
>>>> How do we prove that the universe exists?
>>>>
>>>> What if God is everything there ever was,
>>>> ever is, and ever will be?
>>>> How do we prove that such God exists?
>>>
>>> What if none of that is true?
>>>
>>
>> It's just a hypothesis.
>> So, such God exists by definition.
>
> No.  You cannot make something from nothing by simply defining it.
>
>> Don't forget the "and some more" part.
>> That part has to be proven.
>>
>> Now, we can talk about what God is like.
>
> No.  Not until a god is proven to exist.
>
>> Can we say that the universe created itself?
>
> Who knows?  Perhaps it has always existed.
>
>> Can we say that the universe designed itself?
>
> Why should it be designed?
>
>> It all depends on what we mean by words
>> like 'creation' and 'design', doesn't it.
>> Basically, who cares!
>> Next!
>>
>> Does the universe love itself?
>> What on earth does that mean?
>
> Nothing.
>
>> Let's skip the anthropomorphic nonsense.
>>
>> Does the universe prefer life?
>> Now, that seems like an interesting question.
>> Does it?
>
> You postulate an emotion on the part of an inanimate object.  I
> consider that highly unlikely.
>

I should have said:
Does the universe "prefer" life?

I was thinking about the anthropic principle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle
But I seem to have lost interest in it.

Never mind, for now.

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~Stumper

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