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-> Yeah, it's easy: According to you, Scalia and Cheney, you can legally beat -> the living shit out of anyone if you call it "interrogation". That is an obvious lie, since I said exactly the opposite. There are laws on police brutality. There are also laws on torture. Scalia's point (and you would have known this if you had bothered to READ his words that were posted here) is that such behavior is covered by criminal laws but not by the Eighth Amendment. From that same blog I directed you to yesterday: "Those who did not know what Scalia actually meant were intellectually reckless. They were still people motivated by a desire to hate and, as a result of that motivation, blinded themselves to relevant facts that a concerned and responsible person would have seen. I have little doubt, in most of these cases, that if a liberal had said exactly the same thing, many of these willfully blinded people would have instantly seen the fact that, "Oh, no, this liberal that I love (for being liberal) was not saying that torture is good. He was saying that torture for the sake of getting information is not punishment in the legal sense. Punishment means retribution for a past crime not harsh treatment for the purpose of extracting information." They did not see this answer in this case because they did not want to see it. Their desire to score political points against another was stronger than their desire to see the truth, and their relative lack of interest in the truth is a moral strike against them." --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5a* Origin: FidoTel & QWK on the Web! www.fidotel.com (1:124/311) SEEN-BY: 10/1 3 11/331 34/999 120/228 123/500 128/2 187 140/1 226/0 249/303 SEEN-BY: 250/306 261/20 38 100 1381 1404 1406 1418 266/1413 280/1027 320/119 SEEN-BY: 396/45 633/260 267 285 712/848 800/432 801/161 189 2222/700 2320/100 SEEN-BY: 2320/105 5030/1256 @PATH: 124/311 140/1 261/38 633/260 267 |
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