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to: R L Measures
from: cactus
date: 2007-03-25 20:36:20
subject: Re: Was Pope Pius XII Soft on Naziism?

From: cactus 

òR L Measures wrote:
> In article ,
> bm1{at}nonespam.com wrote:
>
>> duke wrote:
>>> On 14 Mar 2007 13:33:56 -0700, "*Anarcissie*"
 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mar 14, 4:03 pm, duke  wrote:
>>>>> On 14 Mar 2007 12:37:19 -0700,
"*Anarcissie*" 
> wrote:
>>>>>> Now that that's out of the way, we can discuss
what S.o.T. wants
>>>>>> us to discuss: was Pope Pius XII soft on Naziism? 
For instance,
>>>>>> we can compare his actions versus the Nazis with
those versus
>>>>>> the Communists (excommunication).
>>>>> Besides, the Jews said "thank you so much".
>>>>>
>>>>> duke, American-American
>>>>> *****
>>>>> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
>>>>> Pope Paul VI
>>>>> *****
>>>> The question is for what, exactly?  Compare the behavior of
>>>> Pope Pius XII with his contemporaries the Metropolitan Bishops
>>>> Stefan and Kiril of the Bulgarian Orthodox Church.
>>> Te answer is "exactly for all that he did to protect them from
> Hitler".  To do
>>> more would have brought the anger of Hitler more so down on the Jews.
>> This is nonsense. If he did not do all that he could, he is complicit
>> with the nazis. Polish peasants risked everything they had to shelter
>> one or two Jews or a family. Many, many other ordinary people did as
>> well, including priests and nuns, at great personal risk. They are among
>> the righteous gentiles, many of whom are recognized and honored for what
>> they did. I do not see Pius XII among those, and there is a reason. He
>> did not do what he could, he took no risks, and he was silent on the
>> subject.
>>
>     Pius XII deserves credit for creating the Vatican bank in 1943 to act
> as a depository for the 50-tons or so of gold the Nazis confiscated from
> Jewish families they gassed, and for issuing Vatican passports to war
> criminals Adolph Eichmann, the Kommandant of the Auschwitz death factory,
> and to Dr. Joseph Mengele.  These passports enabled these two to escape to
> Argentina after the war.

There's his record.  He's an unrighteous gentile.

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