From: "Mark" 

Not at all Rich, the government exists to protect us from all threats
foreign and domestic along with basic infrastructure services such as
roads, sewerage service, firefighting and rides to the hospital when we
drop to our knees from a heart attack in the middle of the street.

Any community that has the audacity to charge for that ride is not a
community I want to be associated with -- anyone that lives in such a
community should be finding out when the town council meets and giving them
a piece of their mind about it. I would, if my town decided to adopt such a
BS program.

They are not, however, responsible for paying for ripping our chest open
and sticking paddles on our heart, nor stocking our refrigerators with food
or painting our houses when they become faded...

"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
news:43bb535f$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> Gee you now sound like an advocate for socialized medicine.  Or was all
> the capitalistic rhetoric on your part a bit of spin? Shouldn't all
> services be for profit in the Gary-Mark world of capitalism?
>
>
> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:43bb4b76{at}w3.nls.net...
>> What's next then? A bill from the firefighters for extinguishing the
>> flames at your house? Or, perhaps a bill from the police for their
>> investigating your call on a suspicious person in the neighborhood? Extra
>> charge if they find him and have to transport him to jail?
>>
>> These are pretty weird communities that charge their citizens for having
>> an accident or a heart attack -- I'm glad I don't live in one of them,
>> and will surely research the local priorities before considering moving
>> somewhere else.
>>
>> "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message
>> news:43bb485d{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> Gary, sorry, not true here in Nashville.  The Ambulance is charged to
>>> the ER bill, and to the patient.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Glenn M.
>>> "Gary Britt"  wrote
in message
>>> news:43bae245$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> Emergency ambulance service is free almost everywhere.  If
you have a
>>>> car
>>>> wreck and EMT's and an ambulance and police respond you don't get
>>>> charged.
>>>>
>>>> There are a LOT of welfare momma's that use the FREE
ambulance service
>>>> to go
>>>> to an emergency room for free routine healthcare.  They do
this because
>>>> the
>>>> free ambulance is cheaper than a taxi.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>>>> news:43bad0a7$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> > Ambulance rides don't cost $1,000.00.
>>>>>
>>>>> They do anytime I've seen them, and in fact, that's a
little low.
>>>>>
>>>>> >Most counties and cities in the USA
>>>>> > (certainly every one that I've lived in) don't
charge ANYTHING for
>>>>> > an
>>>>> > ambulance ride.  Its like police service.  You
don't get charged
>>>>> > when
>>>> they
>>>>> > come out either.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never been in a place that it was free.  Are you
absolutely sure
>>>> about
>>>>> that.  (If so, I know a few people that have been
ripped off something
>>>>> fierce.)  There's also provisions for ambulance in any health
>>>>> insurance
>>>> I've
>>>>> ever seen and it wouldn't be there if it were free.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>>>> news:43bab309$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> > Ambulance rides don't cost $1,000.00.  Most
counties and cities in
>>>>> > the
>>>> USA
>>>>> > (certainly every one that I've lived in) don't
charge ANYTHING for
>>>>> > an
>>>>> > ambulance ride.  Its like police service.  You
don't get charged
>>>>> > when
>>>> they
>>>>> > come out either.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Gary
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>>>>> > news:43baa9ed{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> >> Take the instance of the slightly better off,
but don't have
>>>>> >> insurance
>>>>> >> for
>>>>> >> some reason or are underinsured, they pay
just what Adam said if
>>>>> >> they
>>>>> >> have
>>>>> >> enough money to pay it. (even if they don't
have money to eat after
>>>> that)
>>>>> >> Heck, even my insurance wouldn't pay it all.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Bob Comer
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>>>> >> news:43baa8fe$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> >> > You only see and hear what you want to
see and hear Adam.  I
>>>>> >> > don't
>>>> care
>>>>> > if
>>>>> >> > you ran a hospital, I live here and I've
had plenty of poor
>>>>> >> > relatives
>>>>> > ride
>>>>> >> > for free in ambulances.  Then get free
treatment at hospitals.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Gary
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > "Adam"
 wrote in message
>>>>> >> > news:43ba534c{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> >> >> Gary Britt wrote:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> > That's a LIE.  An ambulance
will come just as fast whether the
>>>>> >> >> > person
>>>>> >> > has
>>>>> >> >> > money or not.  Just ask all the
welfare mommas who get their
>>>> medical
>>>>> >> > care
>>>>> >> >> > via an ambulance to the
emergency room.  The emergency room
>>>>> >> >> > will
>>>>> >> >> > take
>>>>> >> > them
>>>>> >> >> > and treat them for any life
threatening problems whether she
>>>>> >> >> > had
>>>>> >> > insurance
>>>>> >> >> > or not.  County hospitals and
free clinics will provide
>>>>> >> >> > medical
>>>> care
>>>>> >> > that's
>>>>> >> >> > not life threatening for free
or very discounted prices.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > Its not government's job to
feed people, provide them housing
>>>>> >> >> > or
>>>>> >> > healthcare.
>>>>> >> >> > People are responsible for
providing for themselves (in
>>>>> >> >> > general).
>>>>> > Its
>>>>> >> >> > government's job to make sure
there is opportunity for those
>>>>> >> >> > who
>>>>> >> >> > want
>>>>> >> >> > to
>>>>> >> >> > work to provide these things
for themselves.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> You want to be a little careful what
you state wrt this as I am
>>>>> >> >> in
>>>>> >> >> constant contact with US based
healthcare professionals from
>>>>> >> >> clinicians
>>>>> >> >> to policy makers to financial people
in orgs ranging from the
>>>>> >> >> Mayo
>>>>> >> >> clinic to the VA to the US Mil
healthcare ppl to Kaiser to Blue
>>>> cross
>>>>> >> >> etc.etc.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> I can state that the above is sort of true.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> A) ID determines where you are
taken. No health card & it's the
>>>>> > cheapest
>>>>> >> >> hospital & not the closest.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> B) Often if with Blue cross or
whoever then you may end up being
>>>> taken
>>>>> >> >> to that hospital even if it is 50 miles away.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> C) Once on the ambulance the job of
the crew is in part to rifle
>>>>> > through
>>>>> >> >> your possessions looking for health
cards or credit cards.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> D) Most of even the higher paid US
ppl I am in contact with are
>>>>> >> >> basically fearfull of disease &
injury in a way that most
>>>>> >> >> europeans
>>>> I
>>>>> >> >> deal with are not.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Adam
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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