From: Tony Williams 

Phil Payne wrote:
>>>Nah. Look at his sucesses when seen from the his Muslim/arab
>>>constituency. Saddam? Gone, Foreign troops in Saudi? Gone. Afghanistan a
>>>forgotten war with lots of forgotten dead? etc.
>>
>>And the end justifies the means? Nah, he's a looney.
>
>
> He's changed American society more than anyone else this century.  And not
> for the better.

True, and not something to be proud of. One example: when I first arrived
in the US I was amazed at how casual people were about unattended baggage
on the streets and in public transport, but that's changed now. A sad loss
of innocence.

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Tony

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