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to: Adam
from: Tony Williams
date: 2005-12-30 12:48:06
subject: Re: Bin Laden`s success

From: Tony Williams 

Adam > wrote:

> Is hanging onto power through a use of force (& the threat
> thereof) against civies also terrorism? E.g. say Tianamen square?

I don't think terrorism is the word, but it's certainly wrong.

>
>>>How about Ho Chi Minh? etc.etc.
>>
>>
>>In my mind it comes down to attacking civilians, with or without
>>warning. That's wrong, no matter the cause.
>>
>
> So the US are terrorists? The sites attacked in Iraq under shock & awe
> were mostly civie gov places & there were lots of examples of a
> willingness to take civie places with a high likelihood of civie deaths.

To a certain extent, yes, but making civilians a primary target is
different to being unconcerned about collateral damage and casualties. One
is directly evil, the other is criminally negligent.

>
>>>3K US people killed & look at the changes vs 20K Afghans killed &
>>>millions driven into exile & noone gave a sh*t.
>>
>>
>>I care, and I'm sure a lot of others do too.
>>
>
> I'd love to believe you. I'm sure you do now. I'm not so sure prior to 9-11

You mean like when the USSR was attacking Afghanistan in the '80s? I've
never been much of an activist so maybe I don't care *enough*, but where I
was aware I was opposed.

--
Tony

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