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to: Rich Gauszka
from: Gary Britt
date: 2005-12-30 20:02:58
subject: Re: Merry

From: "Gary Britt" 

Simple is better in most cases.  It is beyond question that capitalism is
what happens when a free people interact with each other.  It is that
simple.   You don't decide on capitalism without being required first to
decide in favor of personal individual freedom, which includes necessarily
the protect of property rights to the free individuals in the group.

Gary

"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
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>
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> news:43b5c9e5$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >
> >\the enslaving.
> >>
> >
> > Gee its hard to respond to something so wrong.  1.  No it doesn't hold
> > true.
> > Capitalism is based upon people busting their arses for their own
> > self-interest.  Capitalism is what happens when a group of free people
> > interact with each other.  Capitalism and personal individual freedom of
> > action are two sides of the same coin.  Capitalism doesn't come with a
> > ready
> > made ruling class.  Rich people evolve by taking advantages of the
> > opportunities capitalism/freedom provide.  Some people don't do well
under
> > capitalism because of something wrong with THEM not something wrong with
> > capitalism.  In communism those same people also don't do well, they are
> > just joined by the enforced slavery of everyone else.  Communism is
> > nothing
> > but a robbery of the masses liberty and property rights to benefit the
> > tiny
> > few who happen to be in control of the military force needed to maintain
> > the
> > enslavement of the population.
> >
> > I could keep going, but I'm just too amazed at how any sentient thinking
> > being who otherwise professes to be in favor of liberty and freedom
could
> > make such a statement.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >\
>
> You adhere to quite a simplistic view
>
> http://www.answers.com/topic/capitalism
> Debates center on whether capitalism
>
>   a.. is an actual system, or an ideal
>   b.. has been actualized in particular economies, or if not, then to what
> degree capitalism exists in those (see mixed economy)
>   c.. is historically specific (that is, that it emerged at a specific
time
> and place), or a system that has existed in various places at various
times
>   d.. is a purely economic system, or a political, social, and cultural
> system as well
>   e.. is sustainable or not
>   f.. is rational or not
>   g.. tends to enrich more and more people, or to impoverish more and more
> people.
>
>

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