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to: CE
from: Bible John
date: 2007-03-25 16:22:54
subject: Re: Roman Catholicism vs. The Bible

From: Bible John 

In article ,
 "CE"  wrote:

> On Mar 25, 12:53 pm, Bible John  wrote:
>
> > Roman Catholicism has many condemning components.
>
> 
>
> The Roman Catholic church's teaching is not only in accordance with
> the Bible but it is the Roman Catholic church that handed down the
> Bible to Christians throughout the centuries.
>
> I won't give you a course on Catholicism in a newsgroup, John, but I
> will say that you've misunderstood Catholic teaching and you would do
> well to take a closer look at it.

Yet you failed to answer these questions in your reply.

Questions for Catholics



1. Holy Spirit

In the Catechism it says

"Confirmation perfects Baptismal grace; it is the sacrament which
gives the Holy Spirit in order to root us more deeply in the divine
filiation, incorporate us MORE FIRMLY into Christ, strengthen our bond with
the Church.." (#1316, p. 367)



But the Bible does not teach this. Can you explain? The Bible teaches that
all Christians have the Holy Spirit. The Bible does not teach that one has
to follow a Catholic doctrine to get the Holy Spirit, nor does the Bible
teach that one has to be Baptized in the Holy Spirit (a common Pentecostal
doctrine).



2. Eucharist

In the Catechism it reads.

"For this reason the Eucharist cannot unite us to Christ without at
the same time cleansing us from past sins and preserving us from future
sins:" (Pg. 390, #1393

"By the same charity that it enkindles in us, the Eucharist preserves
us from future mortal sins." (Pg. 390, #1395)



But the Bible does not teach this. Can you explain? The Bible teaches that
Jesus cleanses the believer from their sins.



In the Catechism it also reads.

"The Eucharistic sacrifice is also offered for the faithful departed who
'have died in Christ but are not yet wholly purified, so that they may
be able to enter into the light and peace of Christ.'" (Pg. 382, # 1371

"In the Eucharist, the Church expresses her efficacious communion with
the departed..." (Pg. 469, #1689)



Likewise the Bible does not teach this. Can you explain? The Bible teaches
that the dead will face judgment, and there is unfortunately no hope for
them. Mormons may also (like Catholics) teach that the dead can be saved,
but the Bible does not teach this. What chapter and what verse teach this?



3. Baptism



The Catechism reads

"The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for
salvation." (Pg. 352, #1257)

"The Church does not know of any other means other than Baptism that
assures entry into eternal beatitude..." (Pg. 352, #1257)

"The faithful are born anew by Baptism.."(Pg. 341, #1212).



What chapter and what verse in the Bible teach these doctrines? The Bible
does not teach that Baptism is required for salvation. What chapter and
what verse teach this?
--
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal
life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries http://www.cerm.info

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