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~> EC> "Nielsen and his fellow prisoners, who were taken to Tokyo, ~> EC> were beaten and tortured while being interrogated. Among ~> EC> other things, Nielsen said in interviews, bamboo splints ~> EC> were shoved under his fingernails and then lighted on fire, ~> EC> and the bottoms of his feet were burned with hot coals." ~> EC> Yep, that would clearly be torture. You left that part out. ~> Since the question was not what are all the ways Japanese ~> tortured US POWs There was no "question." There was your false claim that the four Japanese officers who were convicted of war crimes were guilty of pouring some cups of water over some plastic wrap that was placed in such a way that Nielsen couldn't ingest any of it,. In reality they were convicted of killing and torturing prisoners. The bamboo splints and the hot coals were indeed torture. I doubt that there is anyone in this echo so abominably stupid that they would believe that the four were convicted of pouring cups of water over plastic wrap, although some are so blindly partisan that they will overlook the absurdity of your claim. ~> but did the Japanese waterboard in the manner ~> the US did in Iraq, Another absurd claim that is completely unsupported. Anyone who has even casually followed the threads on this knows the differences. ~> It was irrelevant. The fact that he was tortured, and the descriptions of the torture, are relevant for showing your post to be nonsense. ~> ->> You are ~> ->> assuming there were only those two methods of the "water cure". ~> EC> You take one shot, it misfires, and then you have nothing ~> EC> more to add to the thread. You could have stopped there, ~> EC> but you just had to go on to make something up out of thin ~> EC> air and then falsely attribute it to me. Nothing new. ~> Actually, what I said was in direct response to something you ~> said It was not in "response" to anything. You made up an absurd claim, and then you falsely attributed it to me. I pointed that out to you, and you had an amazingly stupid response. ~> EC> Actually Moe, Larry and Curly have been acting as if there ~> EC> is only ONE type of water-related interrogation method, and ~> EC> they lump everything (Philippines, WW II, Spanish ~> EC> Inquisition, and so on) together under the generic heading ~> EC> "waterboarding" as if they were all the same thing. In the ~> EC> course of the thread I have discussed at least a half-dozen ~> EC> very different water-related interrogation methods. Your ~> I didn't read the entire thread. EXACTLY!!! That is no defense against the obvious dishonesty of you making up such a claim, but it does explain why you thought you might get away with it. You made it up and thought MAYBE it was true, because you hadn't read the thread and were ignorant of the fact that it was untrue. Now you kn0ow, and your position seems to be unchanged, though, so that just compounds your offense. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5a* Origin: FidoTel & QWK on the Web! www.fidotel.com (1:124/311) SEEN-BY: 10/1 3 11/331 34/999 120/228 123/500 128/2 187 140/1 226/0 249/303 SEEN-BY: 250/306 261/20 38 100 1381 1404 1406 1418 266/1413 280/1027 320/119 SEEN-BY: 396/45 633/260 267 285 712/848 800/432 801/161 189 2222/700 2320/100 SEEN-BY: 2320/105 5030/1256 @PATH: 124/311 140/1 261/38 633/260 267 |
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