From: Ellen K. 

My grandparents came to this country with nothing except two babies and a
few household possessions.  Their children (Three more were born on this
side of the Atlantic) all made it comfortably into the middle class,
although only one completed a college education.  They didn't know anyone
influential, on the contrary they had to fight for every bit of economic
progress since in those days Jews were widely discriminated against.  What
they did have was a willingness to work hard and be responsible about the
money they earned.

On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 16:34:04 +0000, Adam
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge"> wrote in
message :

>Gary Britt wrote:
>> Capitalism is fair because everyone has the opportunity to become Bill Gates
>> or to pave the way for their children to have the opportunity to become Bill
>> Gates.
>>
>
>It's not strictly true though is it? Things are very often down to who
>you know & not what you know. Gate's Mum being a chum of the boss of IBM
>couldn't have hurt.
>
>Adam
>
>> Equality of results is neither natural or expected for a system to be fair.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> "Tony Williams"  wrote in message
>> news:43b8825d$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>
>>>Gary Britt wrote:
>>>
>>>>Happy New Year To You As Well.
>>>
>>>Cheers!
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm afraid that enough of us aren't Jesus.  However, I'll
admit that if
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>majority of the population were Jesus then Communism might work.
>>>
>>>In the same spirit, I'll concede that capitalism would be fair if
>>>everyone were Bill Gates.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Should I hold my breath waiting for 3 million Jesuii?
>>>
>>>I advise against it.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>>Gary
>>>>
>>>>"Tony Williams"  wrote in message
>>>>news:43b85915{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ok, I think you're up to operating rpm now .
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not going to refute your post point by point
because it's mainly
>>>>>repeating at great length the same flawed arguments you
advanced before.
>>>>>It was an entertaining read, in a
watching-a-train-wreck sort of way
>>>>
>>>>though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>This little snippet reveals the core fallacy:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>People bust their butts to improve their own life
and the lives of
>>>>>>their children, but NEVER for the common good.
>>>>>
>>>>>Simply not true. I understand some guy got nailed to a cross for
>>>>>suggesting otherwise so I'll leave it there.
>>>>>
>>>>>BTW, at the risk of offending your sensibilities, Happy New Year!
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>

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