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to: Gary Britt
from: Ellen K.
date: 2006-01-02 21:01:16
subject: Re: Merry

From: Ellen K. 

OK, I googled it:

"the principles are unity, self-determination, collective work and
responsibility, cooperative economics, purpose, creativity, and faith.
"

"collective work and responsibility" and "cooperative
economics" sound communistic, but "self-determination",
"purpose", "creativity" and "faith" certainly
don't.

On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:48:43 -0500, "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message :

>I don't think self determination is part of it.  Its all in terms of
>collective social goods.
>
>Gary
>
>"Ellen K."  wrote in message
>news:udtir15feu79tqjgca374oc45l71anhhlr{at}4ax.com...
>> I'm trying to remember the 7 principles, I thought they were stuff like
>> self-determination, how is that communist?
>>
>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 01:03:34 -0500, "Gary Britt"
>>  wrote in message
:
>>
>> >Yes Kwanza was invented by a criminal black nationalist and bigoted
>> >segregationist sort of the opposite of the Klan, except in the violence
>and
>> >criminal nature part.  Hence the comparison to David Duke creating a
>white
>> >holiday, let's call it Whitezonza and having everyone running pretending
>it
>> >should be on a par with Ramadan, Christmas, and Hanukkah.
>> >
>> >The 7 principles of Kwanza are the same 7 communist principles espoused
>by
>> >the Symbionese Liberation Army back in the 60's.
>> >
>> >Gary
>> >
>> >"Ellen K."  wrote in message
>> >news:agehr1d1vkjsrajovejv090jfq2nrtuhvk{at}4ax.com...
>> >> Communism?
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:44:09 -0500, "Gary Britt"
>> >>  wrote in message
:
>> >>
>> >> >I understand what your saying, but once I learned of
this it just
>seems
>> >to
>> >> >me the whole holiday of Kwanza is no different than
if David Duke made
>up
>> >a
>> >> >"Whitey Day Holiday" based it on fascist
principles and then we all
>stand
>> >> >around and pretend that yeah it deserves the same
level of treatment
>and
>> >> >recognition as Christmas, Hanukah, and Ramadan.    NOT.
>> >> >
>> >> >This guy is perhaps worse than David Duke (more
violent it would
>appear
>> >for
>> >> >certain) and Kwanza is based upon the principles of
communism.  In
>fact
>> >> >Kwanzaa's 7 principles are exactly the same as the 7
principles of the
>> >> >Symbionese Liberation Army.  I just don't think it
deserves respect
>and
>> >the
>> >> >people pushing don't usually know the truth about it.
 I didn't know
>the
>> >> >truth until this week.
>> >> >
>> >> >Gary
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Tony Williams" 
wrote in message
>> >> >news:43b462d8$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> Yeah I know all that, but if people want to
celebrate and have a
>good
>> >> >> time then more power to them. Even the dumbest
people get good ideas
>> >> >> every now and then. Speaking of which, let's put
a man on Mars!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Tony
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Gary Britt wrote:
>> >> >> > Kwanza was invented in 1966 by a guy who 2
years later would be
>> >> >convicted of
>> >> >> > torturing two black women by beating them
with electrical cords
>and
>> >> >taking a
>> >> >> > hot soldering iron to both the inside of
the mouth and face of one
>of
>> >> >them.
>> >> >> > At that time he was a no nothing extremist
who headed a gang that
>was
>> >> >the
>> >> >> > counterpart to the Black Panthers.  Knowing
nothing about the real
>> >> >history
>> >> >> > of his people he went around wearing
Dashikis and speaking in
>Swahili
>> >> >(never
>> >> >> > mind most slaves came from West Africa 1000
miles away from the
>> >nearest
>> >> >> > place to speak Swahili).  His followers
shot a black panther guy
>to
>> >> >death on
>> >> >> > the campus of UCLA, prior to the torture
conviction, because the
>> >black
>> >> >> > panther guy and this idiot were rivals to
head the black studies
>> >> >department.
>> >> >> > For some reason there was no investigation
by UCLA and they didn't
>> >seem
>> >> >to
>> >> >> > care that college students who hadn't
graduated high school but
>were
>> >> >> > admitted into black studies on a pure
affirmative action basis
>were
>> >gun
>> >> >> > toting gangsta communists.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > A true con man, with about 3% of the
population falling for it.
>In
>> >the
>> >> >> > great tradition of academia he is now the
head of the black
>studies
>> >> >> > department at UC Davis.  They hired him
within a couple years of
>his
>> >> >being
>> >> >> > released from prison for torturing the two
black women.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Tony Williams"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:43b2f4f7$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>Dave wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>Happy Kwanzaa!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>And to all who celebrate it!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>--
>> >> >> >>Tony
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

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