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echo: r_catholic
to: Ray Fischer
from: stumper
date: 2007-03-25 15:49:18
subject: Re: Do we still need to prove God`s existence?

From: stumper 

Ray Fischer wrote:
> stumper   wrote:
>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>> Free Lunch wrote:
>>>>> stumper  wrote in
>>>>>> God is everything there ever was, is, will be, and
some more.
>>>>>> Do we still need to prove God's existence?
>>>>> It appears that you have now defined "God"
to mean "universe". What's
>>>>> the point?
>>>> And some more.
>>>>
>>>> Does the universe love you?
>>>> Does God love you?
>>>     A man said to the universe:
>>>     "Sir I exist!"
>>>     "However," replied the universe,
>>>     "The fact has not created in me
>>>     A sense of obligation."
>>>         -- Stephen Crane
>> Too bad.
>>
>> God does so by definition.
>
> Logical fallacy: Assuming the conclusion.
>

Just a tentative definition.

Just prove it otherwise "here and now."

--
~Stumper

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