LL>>>>>> Only the mother can know for sure who is the
father of the
 LL>>>>>> child. With, or without, DNA testing.  And even then, she
 LL>>>>>> might not know.

 BK>>>>>  Wrong, she would.

 ML>>>> even with rohipnohl and a "train"?

 BK>>>  DNA testing doesn't care about that.

 ML>> right but that's not the point i was making... i was
 ML>> countering the statements of whether the female would or
 ML>> could know who the sperm donor was... with rohipnohl
 ML>> or any other similar drugs or even enough alcohol, it is
 ML>> very easy for them to not know...

 BK>  I was talking about determening if a particular person was
 BK> the father.

while that's a desirable outcome, it is not possible to achieve when one
has no idea who may have been involved when a situation like i described
above happens...

just to state it again, i was countering the flat, seemingly all inclusive
statement that the female would know or have some idea of any males
involved...

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