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to: Mark
from: Robert G Lewis
date: 2006-01-12 22:21:10
subject: Re: Absolute power

From: "Robert G Lewis" 

Sounds good to me 

"Mark"  wrote in message
news:43c72237{at}w3.nls.net...
> It's good to be back to pure political arguments Bob, I'm right of course.
> As are you.  
>
> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
> news:43c71f9c{at}w3.nls.net...
>>
>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>> news:43c71b2c$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>
>>> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote
in message
>>> news:43c7177c{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>>>> news:43c70de2{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Robert G Lewis"
 wrote in message
>>>>> news:43c70ab9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>> Not necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But it sounds like you feel it would be okay for a
member of the
>>>>>> administration to release highly classified
information for POLITICAL
>>>>>> purposes, even if it damages the security of the
United States.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not at all Bob, I expect them to release information
in clandestine
>>>>> operations to *protect* the United States. Most of
Bush's low ratings
>>>>> are a result of him considering the election over and
concentrating on
>>>>> our national security and day to day operations, in
the meantime the
>>>>> Dems decided that "no, the election means
nothing" let's keep
>>>>> attacking non-stop, the security of the country be damned.
>>>>
>>>> Pure undulated crap not relevant to the point raised. I
expect better
>>>> from you Mark.
>>>
>>> No it isn't Bob, the Dems never stopped their campaign after they lost,
>>> and it's harmful to our country, IMHO.
>>
>> You are AWARE that Bush went to a fund raiser right AFTER his trip to New
>> Orleans aren't you. The republicans haven't stopped their campaigning.
>> one thing the republicans do well is political tactics.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>> If they want to declassify the information there
are procedures to do
>>>>>> so. They do NOT have the right to decide what they
want to leak.
>>>>>> Indeed I think there are laws passed by Congress
with penalties. You
>>>>>> do believe in the rule of law don't you ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I meant that they could declassify it and use it to
undermine our
>>>>> enemies, the ones that the Dems don't believe exist.
You seem to think
>>>>> something was released as a leak, when in reality it
was a purposeful
>>>>> tactic, but because the NYTs wasn't advised up front
it's a crime or
>>>>> some such shit >>>> by their disgraceful, loony, and disgusting actions
during the Alito
>>>>> hearing>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Leaks ARE a purposeful tactic. In a LOT of cases the
tactic seems to be
>>>> to attack Democrats.
>>>
>>> Not that I've seen.
>>
>> Somehow that doesn't suprise me.
>>
>>>
>>>> Then again you seem to think that such statements like
" the ones that
>>>> the Dems don't believe exist." are true.
>>>
>>> Actually, you're right, I do think they believe it true, but their
>>> solution is not to fight, but to go into an ostrich hole with a turtle
>>> shell over their asses.
>>
>> or to actually go after the true enemy. Remember Bin Laden ?
>>
>>>
>>>> Seems a lot of those Democrats have actually served in the Military.
>>>
>>> And some of those, such as Murtha, imagine themselves brilliant military
>>> tacticians.
>>>
>>
>> Only in your mind, Mark Only in your mind.
>>
>> Of course given that he actually served honorably I'd say he may have far
>> more reason to think that ( if he does) than those who avoided service so
>> well
>>
>>>> I'd say they know more about enemies ( and fighting them) than those
>>>> who avoided such things.
>>>
>>> You're arguing for military control of the country?
>>
>> Nothing like reading something other than was was written is there Mark.
>> That seems to be common among the conservatives.
>>
>>>
>>>> Just because the current Republican Party leadership seems
to feel that
>>>> the Democrats are the enemy
>>>
>>> They don't feel it, they see it and are amazed by it, but until recently
>>> tried to avoid it. Since Bush started fighting back, he's been going up
>>> steadily in the polls and the NSA "non-thing" has
him climbing more
>>> rapidly.
>>
>> AVOID IT HELL that's their primary political TACTIC. Bush started
>> fighting back long before he became President. Long before the Democrats
>> stated their attacks.
>>
>>>
>>>> does not means the Democrats feel the same.
>>>
>>> You're attempting to deny the sustained attack on the Bush
>>> administration by the Dems since election day 2000?
>>
>> Are you attempting to deny the sustained attack by Republians on anyone
>> who disagress with them ? With a LOT of untrue statements.
>>
>>>
>>>>You should try and not project
>>>
>>> No projection required, but I wish the Dems would get a new project
>>> >> going for the Rep jugular and hit their own instead as they've been
>>> doing.>
>>
>> I'd like to see the republicnas NOT do what they accuse everyone else of
>> doing.
>>
>>>
>>>> Of course if you want to talk about Alito we could but
that seems to be
>>>> outside the current thread. Another attempt to mislead perhaps ?
>>>
>>> Not at all Bob, just an example of the Dem mind-set, attack, attack,
>>> attack, with no substance. I don't really have the stomach to discuss
>>> their boorish behavior in the hearing. >> Kennedy's BS was a classic>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Classis Republican tactic.
>>
>> You mean after Specter was caught lying about not received Kennedy's
>> memo. A memo that he REPLIED TO.
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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