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echo: fidosoft.husky
to: Alan Ianson
from: mark lewis
date: 2016-08-19 15:38:56
subject: Dupebasetype

18 Aug 16 17:03, you wrote to me:

 AI>>> but it never included a MSGID when msgs were posted by QWK.

 ml>> i wasn't aware of that... all messages posted by users, whether
 ml>> manually written online (could even be ascii uploaded directly into
 ml>> the editor) or uploaded via some sort of offline mail stuff like QWK
 ml>> or bluewave, should have MSGID added *but* there's a problem there
 ml>> with offline mail and MSGIDs... that problem is that unless the BBS
 ml>> has the smarts to also add the proper REPLY control line, then
 ml>> neither can be added to offline mail... replies to posts with MSGID
 ml>> lines must have a REPLY line as well...

 AI> Well.. that is all rather complicated.

yes, exactly... welcome to a world where incompatible software and formats
are shoehorned into use instead of embracing the existing standards and
formats... QWK is a perfect example of this when FTN software and a point
configuration is the way that FTN offline mail should really be done...

 AI> What if the BBS can't determine the message that is being replied to.
 AI> Should it not add the MSGID in that case?

yes, exactly...

 AI> Then we get back to the msg going around in circles again.

sorry about that... blame the folks who are trying to drive MSGID/REPLY to
being forced into use on everyone just like those that are forcing full
SEEN-BY lines and dupes as the way of life...

 AI>>> It's not something that has been used a lot and I would get multiple
 AI>>> copies of msgs when someone posted by Mystics QWK system.

 ml>> that's par for the course when using multiple links for the same area
 ml>> (al la fidoweb or even a standard distribution star arrangement)...
 ml>> that's why relying solely on MSGID is not the best/proper way to
 ml>> go... it is one way, yes...

 AI> I am connected with a node who does this. I guess he has his reasons
 AI> so I don't question it. When that link gets a message for an area that
 AI> doesn't exist on his system from my node the area is autocreated and I
 AI> am added to his exports. When I see messages going around in a circle
 AI> like that I disconnect the area with areafix but keep exporting to
 AI> him. He gets his redundency and I get one message.. :)

[smh]

 AI> I am upto 18 dupes here now. All caused by the same MSGID being
 AI> reused. But the content and subject lines are all different. Makes me
 AI> wonder if HPT is considering the MSGID alone.

according to the documentation, the TO, FROM, SUBJECT and MSGID should be
being used...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey

... We lie loudest when we lie to ourselves.
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