From: "Mark" 

I give up too. You outline all these supposed transgressions happening
right now (in your mind) during the Bush administration and wonder why I
think you're blaming/accusing Bush of taking away your rights and moving us
into a "Nazi" style government -- it's just beyond the pale to me
Rich, sorry.

"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
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>I give up. we might be able to communicate if you would stop thinking of
>this as a personal attack on Bush.  It's about events - period. All many
>are trying to say is a Republic ( Germany in the past ) can fall if one
>ignores the warning signs that cheapen liberty.  Now I'll agree that some
>of the warning signs are open to debate but you sound like someone that is
>willing to have even that debate stifled. There is nothing evil about
>debate.
>
>
> "Mark"  wrote in message
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>> What does that have to do with Bush? > leftie position that "Bush will suspend the 2008 elections and become
>> "King" George, do you?>
>>
>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> news:43d6f3d9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> Are you under the delusion that the Nazis weren't voted into power?
>>> Commie, Nazi, Liberal, Neocon ...  are some of the scare words that are
>>> used to attract attention to a particular viewpoint.  Sometimes there is
>>> even some truth buried in the rhetoric. To automatically discard
>>> everything negative to one's viewpoint is foolhardy
>>>
>>> Here's a short history of the 1930-33 period
>>>
>>> http://www.colby.edu/personal/r/rmscheck/GermanyD7.html
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
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>>>> Okay Rich, have it your way. For me I cannot separate the death of 6
>>>> million plus human beings from "Hitler" and
"Nazi." So I also cannot
>>>> take seriously the constant use of those terms to deride a legally
>>>> elected president of the greatest nation in the history of
the world;
>>>> in a world almost a century past those evil trangressions.
>>>>
>>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote
in message
>>>> news:43d6eb3b$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> It's not a comparison to the mass murders of nazi
germany. It's a
>>>>> comparison of the events that lead to the break up of the German
>>>>> Republic in 1930 when those in power felt that it was
time for a more
>>>>> authoritarian political system that would reduce
democratic and social
>>>>> rights.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:43d6e4a3$2{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>> To compare the mass murder of Nazi Germany to the
USA is what is
>>>>>> ridiculous. It's long past time to stop dredging
up "Nazi" when
>>>>>> trying to make one's point on any subject at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>>>>>> news:43d6e0bf$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>> 500,000 Gypsies also perished in the Nazi
terror. To make
>>>>>>> mention/warn of the perils of fascism honors
those who perished and
>>>>>>> shows no disrespect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.geocities.com/~patrin/terror.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Mark" 
wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:43d6d3e8$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>> No, Germany went downhill over a decade or
so. Still, I don't think
>>>>>>>> Bush is going to start gassing Democrats,
do you? I just don't see
>>>>>>>> this ridiculous comparison at all, as I
said, it makes the
>>>>>>>> arguments silly and it is especially
disrespectful of Jewish people
>>>>>>>> and what they went through under actual Naziism.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:43d6d245$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Mark"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:43d6ca70{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>I don't get the left's fascination
with Nazis at all -- not a day
>>>>>>>>>>goes by that they're not calling
this person or that a Nazi
>>>>>>>>>>(mostly Bush), it makes their
arguments even sillier than they
>>>>>>>>>>already are.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sometimes the rhetoric does get a bit
extreme ( Belafonte ) yet
>>>>>>>>> there is a middle ground that worries
about the suppression of
>>>>>>>>> liberties in a background of fear. 
We've recovered from such
>>>>>>>>> incidents in the past ( shipping our
citizens to internment camps
>>>>>>>>> in WWII ) but will we continue to do
so?  Do you think Germany
>>>>>>>>> slipped into fascism in a single moment?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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