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to: Rich Gauszka
from: Mark
date: 2006-01-26 20:31:10
subject: Re: How do you know where the border is in a tunnel?

From: "Mark" 

Okay, we're arguing over minutia now. You'll never agree it was wise to
take out Saddam, and I'll never agree it wasn't.

"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
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> Hardy anyone here has said 'never' in use our troops. The refrain has been
> 'wise' use of the military.
>
>
> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:43d975cd$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> It's beyond unfortunate, yes. But the solution is not to never use our
>> troops.
>>
>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> news:43d9753d$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> Yes many of the troops are battle hardened. Unfortunately for Rumsfeld
>>> and company they aren't cyborgs. Battlefield stress is a very real thing
>>> that the military is quite aware of.  Sadly there is no magic pill and
>>> some remain f*cked up for long periods of time
>>>
>>> http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/aug2003/a080803d.html
>>>
>>> We have to hit things as hard as we can as fast as we can, but results
>>> have been really good," added Selby. Unfortunately, not everyone
>>> recovers from battle fatigue and combat stress with local treatment.
>>> "Occasionally, we see some pretty serious psychiatric patients with
>>> extreme disorders," said Parsley. They literally can't
feed themselves
>>> or do personal hygiene. They can be serious risks to themselves or other
>>> people. These people have to be medically evacuated."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>>> news:43d96e03$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote
in message
>>>> news:43d96c4e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> but but Gary said it made no difference. Who am I to
believe Gary or
>>>>> Rumsfeld?
>>>>
>>>> Well his point was if the left was in control we wouldn't
need an army
>>>> "battle hardened" "stretched" or
"otherwise", since they'd never use
>>>> them for anything >>> to), just sayin>
>>>>
>>>>> One should take care when officials start using buzz phrases as
>>>>> 'battle hardened' .
>>>>
>>>> A percentage of our troops are battle-hardened in first-person
>>>> perspective, the rest are at a higher level of readiness in support
>>>> positions than they'd otherwise be, just a fact.
>>>>
>>>>> They also told us the following
>>>>> about Saddam"fourth largest army in the
world," and about his
>>>>> "battle-hardened troops,"
>>>>
>>>> I don't recall everything said about Saddam's troops, but if the
>>>> numbers were there, then it was accurate -- how well they fought and
>>>> whether they'd run is another matter. They couldn't run in a fight
>>>> against Iran or Kuwait because they'd be killed by Saddam, they were
>>>> obviously quite sure as they watched the Humvees enter Baghdad that
>>>> Saddam wouldn't be around to kill them if they ran from
the US, so they
>>>> did -- wisely so.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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