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from: Mizmor
date: 2007-03-26 06:02:58
subject: Re: Was Pope Pius XII Soft on Naziism?

From: "Mizmor" 

On Mar 25, 9:50â am, r...{at}somis.org (â øR L Measures) wrote:
> In article ,
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> b...{at}nonespam.com wrote:
> > duke wrote:
> > > On 14 Mar 2007 13:33:56 -0700, "*Anarcissie*"

wrote:
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> > >> On Mar 14, 4:03 pm, duke  wrote:
> > >>> On 14 Mar 2007 12:37:19 -0700,
"*Anarcissie*" 
> wrote:
>
> > >>>> Now that that's out of the way, we can discuss
what S.o.T. wants
> > >>>> us to discuss: was Pope Pius XII soft on
Naziism? â For instance,
> > >>>> we can compare his actions versus the Nazis with
those versus
> > >>>> the Communists (excommunication).
> > >>> Besides, the Jews said "thank you so much".
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> > >>> duke, American-American
> > >>> *****
> > >>> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> > >>> Pope Paul VI
> > >>> *****
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> > >> The question is for what, exactly? â Compare the behavior of
> > >> Pope Pius XII with his contemporaries the Metropolitan Bishops
> > >> Stefan and Kiril of the Bulgarian Orthodox Church.
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> > > Te answer is "exactly for all that he did to protect them from
> Hitler". â To do
> > > more would have brought the anger of Hitler more so down on the Jews.
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> > This is nonsense. If he did not do all that he could, he is complicit
> > with the nazis. Polish peasants risked everything they had to shelter
> > one or two Jews or a family. Many, many other ordinary people did as
> > well, including priests and nuns, at great personal risk. They are among
> > the righteous gentiles, many of whom are recognized and honored for what
> > they did. I do not see Pius XII among those, and there is a reason. He
> > did not do what he could, he took no risks, and he was silent on the
> > subject.
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> âé¬âé¬ â Pius XII deserves credit for creating the Vatican bank in 1943 to
act
> as a depository for the 50-tons or so of gold the Nazis confiscated from
> Jewish families they gassed, and for issuing Vatican passports to war
> criminals Adolph Eichmann, the Kommandant of the Auschwitz death factory,
> and to Dr. Joseph Mengele. â These passports enabled these two to escape to
> Argentina after the war.

I have seen this accusation elsewhere, but I haven't seen any solid
evidence. What do you base it on?

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