From: "Robert G Lewis" 

Not what I said. My point is that there are those on BOTH sides who do such things.




"Mark"  wrote in message
news:43d6e8cc$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> Hmm, perhaps. So because some on the right call lefties communists, the
> left should be able to use Nazi? I don't think so.
>
> I don't think I've used communist to any great degree (if at all) myself,
> but I know I use socialist to describe the ultimate goals of the left and
> they certainly have a communist bent underlying their goals, but both
> communism and socialism are failed ideologies that are more comprehensive
> than the individuals, such as Stalin, that used them toward their
> murderous ends.  other plays on words either, I think they too take away from the
> seriousness of the argument being proffered (sorry Gary B.)>
>
> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
> news:43d6e63e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Same with the right calling seeing communists.
>>
>>
>> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:43d6ca70{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>I don't get the left's fascination with Nazis at all -- not a day goes by
>>>that they're not calling this person or that a Nazi (mostly Bush), it
>>>makes their arguments even sillier than they already are.
>>>
>>> "George Sherwood" 
wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2006.01.25.00.14.20.369691{at}beernabeer.com...
>>>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:42:39 +0100, Phil Payne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is so sad, it almost moves me to tears:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts01242006.html
>>>>>
>>>>> "Go to House Report 109-333 -USA PATRIOT IMPROVEMENT AND
>>>>> REAUTHORIZATION ACT
>>>>> OF 2005 and check it out for yourself. Sec. 605 reads:
>>>>>
>>>>> "There is hereby created and established a
permanent police force, to
>>>>> be
>>>>> known as the 'United States Secret Service Uniformed
Division'."
>>>>>
>>>>> This new federal police force is "subject to the
supervision of the
>>>>> Secretary of Homeland Security."
>>>>>
>>>>> The new police are empowered to "make arrests
without warrant for any
>>>>> offense against the United States committed in their
presence, or for
>>>>> any
>>>>> felony cognizable under the laws of the United States
if they have
>>>>> reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has
>>>>> committed
>>>>> or is committing such felony."
>>>>>
>>>>> The new police are assigned a variety of
jurisdictions, including "an
>>>>> event
>>>>> designated under section 3056(e) of title 18 as a
special event of
>>>>> national
>>>>> significance" (SENS).
>>>>>
>>>>> "A special event of national significance"
is neither defined nor does
>>>>> it
>>>>> require the presence of a "protected person"
such as the president in
>>>>> order
>>>>> to trigger it. Thus, the administration, and perhaps the police
>>>>> themselves,
>>>>> can place the SENS designation on any event. Once a
SENS designation
>>>>> is
>>>>> placed on an event, the new federal police are
empowered to keep out
>>>>> and to
>>>>> arrest people at their discretion."
>>>>>
>>>>> JAWOHL!
>>>>
>>>> Something doesn't make sense because there has been a Uniformed
>>>> Division
>>>> of the Secret Service forever. They are the ones you see standing
>>>> outside
>>>> the White House or the Naval Observatory.  I don't see the big deal,
>>>> they
>>>> can arrest some one if they see that person committing a
crime.  Pretty
>>>> much like any other law enforcement officer.  What makes
them Nazi's?
>>>>
>>>> George
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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